Crafting Mastery and Mythic Crafter


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Curious how these 2 interact. If I take the Archmage path ability Crafting mastery and the Mythic Feat Mythic Crafter can I make mythic versions of all the item types? I'm assuming no... it just seems a bit vague.

Mythic Crafter (Mythic)
You can craft mythic magic items.
Prerequisite(s): Any item creation feat.
Benefit: You can create any mythic magic item for which you have the appropriate item creation feat. In addition, you gain a +5 bonus on skill checks when creating non-mythic magic items.

Crafting Mastery (Ex)
You can craft any magic item as if you had the necessary item creation feats. If you actually have the item creation feat needed for a magic item you're crafting, whenever you attempt a skill check to create that item, roll twice and use the higher result, and you make twice as much progress on the item for any time spent. This ability does not reduce the item's cost or any other requirements.


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I would personally rule no, they do not stack. I thought of an argument when you first posted, but it wasnt terribly solid.

Then again, that's up to your GM, it's not like any of these will show up in PFS.


I think they stack for the following reasons

1: Crafting Mastery doesn't add any bonuses to your crafting check, it only allows you to craft items as if you had the prerequisite feats, and allows you to roll twice and take the better result if you actually had the necessary feats to make said item.

2: Mythic Crafter specifically grants you the ability to create Mythic items which you have the feats for. Crafting Mastery treats you as if you had all the necessary feats, which would allow you to take that many less feats for crafting purposes unless you really wanted that +5 bonus on your craft check.

So to summarize, I think these two feats would be able to work together with each other beautifully, but different GM's would have to make their own rulings on games with which these abilities would come into play.


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By RAW, you don't count as having the crafting feats for anything else than crafting. So you'll need at least 1 crafting feat to take Mythic crafter.

For the +5, I'm less sure, but I think it's still a no for the same reason: You're considered as having the feat for the craft only, not for the effect/prerequisite/else of a feat.

The two are still good investment IMO.

Silver Crusade

Sorry to slightly hijack, and I know this is thread necro, but would you say you can craft items earlier than you normally could with Crafting Mastery?


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Joseph Davis wrote:
Sorry to slightly hijack, and I know this is thread necro, but would you say you can craft items earlier than you normally could with Crafting Mastery?

Theoretically, yes it could from the standpoint of no longer needing feats to make an item, so long as you had the Mythic feat Crafting Mastery. From a gaming standpoint, I don't see this ability as being too gamebreaking, cuz all it does is eliminate the need to take the feats unless you want to for the 'roll twice if you have the necessary feat' effect. I don't see this as very gamebreaking because the GM is still the final arbitrator of that you could and couldn't make in their game number one, and number two you'd still need to meet any other prerequisites for crafting the item besides the feat, unless you wanted to add a +5 to the crafting DC to make an item.

Then again, I'm usually pretty conservative when I make magic items myself, since I don't like making items that make anything my gm throws at me or my party unable to compete with me and said party members, and I tend to make things for the purpose of it being cool to use or as a useful but never overpowered support option.

Silver Crusade

Well, I'm playing a Wizard in Wrath, and I'm willing to lose out on a single Path ability to not have to take any Item creation feats (would rather get tons of metamagic for this character) My thought though is I think we're getting our first tier at 6th ish level, does this mean I could craft staves at that level, assuming I had the resources?


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Joseph Davis wrote:
Well, I'm playing a Wizard in Wrath, and I'm willing to lose out on a single Path ability to not have to take any Item creation feats (would rather get tons of metamagic for this character) My thought though is I think we're getting our first tier at 6th ish level, does this mean I could craft staves at that level, assuming I had the resources?

Given the nature of mythic stuff in general and that you'd be taking this ability, I'd say that you could indeed create staves without needing the proper craft feat if you take mythic "Crafting Mastery" ability. I'd say your good on this one.

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Silver Crusade

Fair enough, thank you. May also post on the James Jacobs thread, just so I have a "dev's opinion" for my gm. However, as far as I'm concerned this is good enough for me. :D I kind of figured it'd work that way, but wasn't 100% sure :D

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