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Heya.
I will be starting the Jade Regent AP soon and I want to make a Cavalier that is good on the horse and off. I know this will stretch my feats and abilities a bit but its what I want to do. Was wondering if folks could chime in on their thoughts on how to proceed.
Things I am soilid on:
Human
Cavalier order of the cockatrice
(I really want to use the emissary archetype but am negotiable)
I could really use some feat advice. What feats would you find essential for both a mounted and melee character. Keep in mind im trying to balance between the two.
Possibilities:
ride by attack
power attack
intimidating prowess (for braggart ability)
spirited charge
furious focus
Thanks gang Ill check in a bit later. I ams o excited I havent been able to play in forever. Just wrapping up GMing carrion Crown for the last two years. :)
Furious focus isn't that great, all you really need is power attack.
I would also recommend you take Iron Will because cavaliers have horrible will saves
+5 to hit is a terrible idea you're right.
/sarcasmFurious Focus is a good feat, but at later levels when it nets you more than just +1 or +2 to hit.
What type of eats or chains would you guys reccomend and at what levels? The stuff on furious focus is good keep it coming!
Human means you can take both Power Attack and Mounted Combat at 1st level.
Ride By Attack is necessary at level 3 to make sure you can actually use your mount for combat.
5th level you get some options finally, Spirited Charge is ideal for DPR, but Intimidating Prowess may serve you well for role playing/ combat also.
If you are going for an Intimidate build, then Furious Focus is actually great because then you can also take Cornugon Smash and later Dreadful Carnage
Consider Spirited Charge still and that's all your feats up to 13th level. Order of the Sword would let you take Spirited Charge for free at 8th level, and thus you could have the build done even sooner.
The big thing about doing both is that you want the feat chain to be light and/or applicable in both scenarios. Going for Power Attack with a BFS is probably your best bet.
How far do you think this game is gonna go?
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Furious focus isn't that great, all you really need is power attack.
I would also recommend you take Iron Will because cavaliers have horrible will saves
+5 to hit is a terrible idea you're right.
/sarcasmFurious Focus is a good feat, but at later levels when it nets you more than just +1 or +2 to hit.
Of course, on the other hand, a very-high level melee character really shouldn't have much chance of missing with his first attack anyway... But I suppose until you can hit on a 2 there's always room for more accuracy.
@OP: Even off horse, you'll still be a high-strength, full-BAB character; swinging in 2-handed with Power Attack will be pretty effective. If you think you're going to be using Intimidate, I would take the Cornugon Smash feat - Shaken is a pretty nice debuff.
I'd second Iron Will - there aren't a lot of feats that will do wonders for your off-horse combat, so it's good to shore up your defenses. You might consider investing in a few potions of Reduce Person and Reduce Animal - just for those really hard fights in small spaces. (Not sure how many of those Jade Regent features.)
Of course, on the other hand, a very-high level melee character really shouldn't have much chance of missing with his first attack anyway... But I suppose until you can hit on a 2 there's always room for more accuracy.
This is my view on the matter, yes.
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Emissary gives up Tactican for mounted combat at level 1. It also allows the cavalier to move at normal speed in medium armor. So if I read this correctly I could go ride by attack and power attack or intimidating prowess at level 1. I could have spirited charget at 3rd or 5th level. sounds like furious focus is not bad but can wait.
L1 mounted combat (emissary), ride by attack (level feat), intimidating prowess (human)
L3 Power attack
L5 spirited charge
L6 (cavalier bonus) ?
Can you folks comment on what source contains Cornugon smash feat?
I expect the game to go to at least level 15
Cheliax- Empire of Devils
And that's a neat little archetype there. I would recommend Quickdraw, and Mounted Blade since a second attack can be really useful to you. Quickdraw will let you switch between using a BFS on ground, and a lance while mounted, unless you wanna go all lance all the time. Since you already have Mobility for free, you could also pick up Dodge and Spring Attack.
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L1 mounted combat (emissary),
ride by attack (human),
Iron will
L3 Power attack
L5 spirited charge,
mobility (emissary)
L6 intimidating prowess (bonus)
L7 Curnogon smash
L9 weapon focus long sword,
trick riding (emissary)
L11 gory finish
L12 Furious focus (bonus)
L13 shatter defenses
L14 mounted skirmisher (emissary)
L15 Critical focus
This is a working list so far. couple thoughts I have is maybe I could go with a trait instead of iron will. +1 instead of +2. Also, there is weapon focus. It is a prerequisite for a few feats. I could try and petition the GM say its a feat tax because I already have dazzling display. Im 50/50 on what I would do as a GM on that. What do you folks think?
L1 mounted combat (emissary),
ride by attack (human),
Iron will
L3 Power attack
L5 spirited charge,
mobility (emissary)
L6 intimidating prowess (bonus)
L7 Curnogon smash
L9 weapon focus long sword,
trick riding (emissary)
L11 gory finish
L12 Furious focus (bonus)
L13 shatter defenses
L14 mounted skirmisher (emissary)
L15 Critical focus
This is a working list so far. couple thoughts I have is maybe I could go with a trait instead of iron will. +1 instead of +2. Also, there is weapon focus. It is a prerequisite for a few feats. I could try and petition the GM say its a feat tax because I already have dazzling display. Im 50/50 on what I would do as a GM on that. What do you folks think?
I think a wayfinder and a cheap Ioun stone will give you Weapon Focus for 2000 gp. If you wanted it keyed to something other than a longsword you could since the Ioun Stone will let you treat an exotic weapon as a martial weapon, provided you are proficient with martial weapons (you are).
DMs are more willing to give you things when you are willing to pay for them and they already exist in the rules without them having to fiat anything.
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New working feat list:
L1 mounted combat (emissary),
ride by attack (human),
Iron will
L3 Power attack
L5 spirited charge,
mobility (emissary)
L6 intimidating prowess (bonus)
L7 Curnogon smash
L9 furious focus,
trick riding (emissary)
L11 dreadful carnage
L12 Critical focus (bonus)
L13 staggering critical
L14 mounted skirmisher (emissary)
L15 Crippling critical
XmorsX thank you for pointing me towards dreadful carnage. Couple thoughts I have are about iron will. I feel like I have to take it early if at all to get use of it. I would like to move intimidating prowess up the list. Seems allright at the moment. At the end, feats looking like a crit fishing build. Any suggestions for weapons? Always willing to hear alternate suggestions. This is a work inprogress still. Sounds like I will have a month or more before AP starts.
Stand Still doesn't work with reach weapons.