Ways to lie in the face of magic


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Shadow Lodge

Tell the truth, but don't tell the whole truth, and don't actually answer their questions. Think Aes Sedai in Wheel of Time. They have taken an oath against lying, yet are still well knwon for not telling the truth. "the truth an Aes Sedai tells you is not the truth you think it is."

Liberty's Edge

You could always try to use the real-life Jesuits' way : since the gods know the truth of mortals' thoughts, you say the beginning of a true sentence aloud, then end it in your mind. The total result, as known by the gods, is the complete and utter truth. What was heard and understood by mortals may be a very different thing.

But then Zone of Truth and similar effects do not force you to correct a misunderstanding ;-)

Example : I did not steal the diamond (silently : two months ago). True, since I stole it last night.


The black raven wrote:
you say the beginning of a true sentence aloud, then end it in your mind.

If you're allowed to do that, then the zone of truth spell would be completely useless.


MagusJanus wrote:

There's also another method you can use... Do something so manifestly absurd that even if you tell them truth, they'll never believe it. [.....]

That's awesome, really awesome !


Sounds like the above -- evasions and such -- are great applications of the Bluff skill. If this charismatic character is a spellcaster, perhaps he could (with your permission) research a spell that lets him put some of his memories in a crystal or something...


pennywit wrote:
Sounds like the above -- evasions and such -- are great applications of the Bluff skill. If this charismatic character is a spellcaster, perhaps he could (with your permission) research a spell that lets him put some of his memories in a crystal or something...

There's already a spell that does this. I just can't remember the name of it.

It extracts memories and stores them in a crystal until the crystal is broken.


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Thanks all. And, MagusJanus, you have given me some wonderfully terrible inspiration.


Points in linguistics, because who really prepares tongues anyway.

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