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Couple of questions about pregen characters.
When you play a pregen, once you make it to the chronicle, do you already have to apply it to a character, or can you hold on to it and apply it to the first of your characters that qualifies for it.
Ex: I have two 6th level chars and play a 7th pregen, do I have to decide on reception of the chronicle which one to give it to?
If it is the case that you have to apply the chronicle once you get it, what happens if the character you applied it too dies with no hope of coming back?
Ex: Play a 4th level pregen and decide to give it to a 1st level character, who promptly dies next adventure and the body is not recoverable.
Can the pregen credit be applied to another character or is it lost?
Thanks in advance.
Swiss
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Hey there, Swiss Mercenary.
When you play a pregen, once you make it to the chronicle, do you already have to apply it to a character, or can you hold on to it and apply it to the first of your characters that qualifies for it.
The stricter interpretation is correct. When you walk away from the table, the GM should be able to report which of your PCs gets the credit.
(There are some GMs who require that from you at the beginning of the session, so that if the pre-gen died irrevocably, then so does the character it's tied to. That's not my reading of the rule.)
If it is the case that you have to apply the chronicle once you get it, what happens if the character you applied it too dies with no hope of coming back?
You lose that credit.
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Hey there, Swiss Mercenary.
The stricter interpretation is correct. When you walk away from the table, the GM should be able to report which of your PCs gets the credit.
(There are some GMs who require that from you at the beginning of the session, so that if the pre-gen died irrevocably, then so does the character it's tied to. That's not my reading of the rule.)
Thanks Chris, and I agree with you on the second point, so does the guide to Organised Play.
One thing though, reporting is not obligatory is it?
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(There are some GMs who require that from you at the beginning of the session, so that if the pre-gen died irrevocably, then so does the character it's tied to. That's not my reading of the rule.)
I think there was a clarification that if a pregen dies, you can choose to move the credit to an unused character number. But I don't remember where that was printed, so I can't provide a link, and might be wrong. (Anyone?)
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It is in the FAQ
If my PC or pregenerated character dies permanently, what happens?
Player characters and pregenerated characters who do not return to the realm of the living receive 0 XP, 0 PP, 0 gold, and no items or boons. This is marked on their Chronicle sheet along with a note that the character is permanently dead. If a player was planning to hold the Chronicle from a pregenerated character and apply it to a lower level PC once the PC reached the level of the pregenerated character, they must either apply the Chronicle sheet immediately and report the PC as dead or assign the Chronicle sheet to a new level 1 PC (ie a new PC number) and report that character as dead.
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(There are some GMs who require that from you at the beginning of the session, so that if the pre-gen died irrevocably, then so does the character it's tied to. That's not my reading of the rule.)I think there was a clarification that if a pregen dies, you can choose to move the credit to an unused character number. But I don't remember where that was printed, so I can't provide a link, and might be wrong. (Anyone?)
The Guide to Organised Play states (page 6):
"If you play a non-1st-level pregenerated character, you apply the credit to your character as soon as she reaches the level of the pregenerated character played."No where does it state that you have to actually have to pre-credit which character gets the chronicle, hence my question.
You could interpret the Guide as 'apply the credit to a character as soon as they reach the level of the pregenerated character played.'
As much as I appreciate Chris' answer, I was looking for an FAQ or official interpretation.
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(There are some GMs who require that from you at the beginning of the session, so that if the pre-gen died irrevocably, then so does the character it's tied to. That's not my reading of the rule.)I think there was a clarification that if a pregen dies, you can choose to move the credit to an unused character number. But I don't remember where that was printed, so I can't provide a link, and might be wrong. (Anyone?)The Guide to Organised Play states (page 6):
"If you play a non-1st-level pregenerated character, you apply the credit to your character as soon as she reaches the level of the pregenerated character played."No where does it state that you have to actually have to pre-credit which character gets the chronicle, hence my question.
You could interpret the Guide as 'apply the credit to a character as soon as they reach the level of the pregenerated character played.'As much as I appreciate Chris' answer, I was looking for an FAQ or official interpretation.
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With respect, I don't think the issue of pregen-died exactly answers Swiss' question of pregen-lived. A player of a dead pregen needs to assign the death to a new character.
Swiss, Mike has indeed said that successful pre-gen adventures also need to be tagged to a character right away.
Here's the best rationale I can come up with: Let's say that you ran Kyra through a scenario but didn't assign the credit to any of your characters. And let's say that, the next week, you want to GM that self-same adventure. Can you credit it onto your character xxxxxx-03? Well, we don't know, because the jury's still out as to whether xxxxxx-03 gets the player credit for that adventure.
Certainly, you would have to decide whether a character gets credit before ever playing that character. Not just because "oops, xxxxxx-05 died in that scenario, so I'm not going to assign the floating 7th-level credit to him!" But also because different Chronicles contain boons which react to one another. "I played 'Quest for PErfection, Part 2' with 4th-level Valeros. Later on, I played (and survived) Part 1 with 4th-level Ezren. So I'll assign both of those Chronicles to whichever PC is best suited to play Part 3, so I can get that sweet reward."
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With respect, I don't think the issue of pregen-died exactly answers Swiss' question of pregen-lived.
Oh! I read his question backwards.
SM, the answer to your second question is this: If you've got a pregen credit on character -1 that kicks in at 7th level, and the character dies at level 6, you lose that pregen credit.
There's no specific rule we can quote you to show this, because it's an extension of how credit works: You assign credit when you play the scenario. Once credit is assigned to a character, it's assigned to that character; once a character is dead, its credit dies with it. There would need to be a specific exception for moving pregen credit, and there isn't.
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OK, thanks for all the answers, so it is a lot clearer now.
So hopefully my Level 6 will make it to 7 without dying permanently.
You should have enough cash or prestige on hand at that point to get yourself a raise. The rest of the party can chip in to get you ressed if you don't quite have all of it.
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If the pregen dies, it doesn't matter what level it is and when you'd apply it to the character you gave credit for it. You need to resolve the death and negative levels immediately.
I.E.: If your 4th level character with 15 PP and 6,000gp was having a 7th level Pregen credit assigned, you'd normally wait until your 4th level character was 7th level to assign the credit. But if the pregen dies, you must resolve that death immediately. You may sell the gear the pregen has to help resolve the death. You may also use the PP the character has, the PP the pregen earned, and any gold the character has to resolve the death and the negative levels.