Multiclassing alternate classes.

[thaX]

The restrictions need to remain in place for Multiclassing with these new hybrids.

I believe that a part of using these classes is to gain a benefit from the alternate classes the new class hybrid pulls from. Multiclassing into them or any other alternates (like the Ninja) into the base classes is redundant and serves only to steer away from what the new class has to offer.

Like Archtypes, the new hybrids are leaving out some abilities of the alternate classes to make room for what the new class will use instead.

Please, for the love of the gods, keep these restrictions in place!!

[Are]

If you believe the multiclassing is redundant, then the restrictions aren't necessary. Nobody would want to multiclass two classes where the benefits of multiclassing were redundant.

So, the restrictions then only cover situations where the multiclassing isn't redundant. For instance, there's nothing redundant about multiclassing Brawler and Warpriest, but with the restriction in place this isn't a possibility since both have "fighter" as a parent class.

[Dasrak]

I fail to see any arguement for disallowing multi-classing for the new classes that wouldn't apply to multi-classing in general. If specific class features shouldn't stack, then just say so in the description (for instance the ninja class has this clause with respect to ki). If someone wants to slow their progression in the investigator class to gain some of the abilities of a rogue, that's his prerogative and I don't think it's appropriate to prohibit the option without a compelling reason for doing so.

[thaX]

Uh... because it is using the rogue for a part of the makeup of the class?

EdIt To me, it would be the same as multiclassing a Ninja with the Rogue, there really is no point.

[LazarX]

thaX wrote:

Please, for the love of the gods, keep these restrictions in place!!

The restrictions ARE there, and no one has said anything about changing the rules for alternate classes on this new set.

[JRutterbush]

thaX wrote:

Uh... because it is using the rogue for a part of the makeup of the class?

EdIt To me, it would be the same as multiclassing a Ninja with the Rogue, there really is no point.

It doesn't matter if there's a point or not. It matters whether or not there is a good reason to ban multiclassing... which there is not. It's not unbalancing (at least not any more so than some other perfectly legal multiclassing combinations), and "It's pointless." is not a reason to ban something. So what if it's pointless? Maybe I like doing pointless things?

And, as was mentioned, it's not always pointless. Sure, multiclassing Ninja/Rogue doesn't get you much you wouldn't have already gotten (though it does still give you some things that each class wouldn't get alone). But Brawler/Warpriest, as Are said, is not redundant at all. Unless I'm just missing the Brawler's spells per day table or the Warpriest's unarmed damage and Martial Maneuvers class features.