Race choice for PFS build

[Brad McDowell]

Front line melee build for PFS, dipping monk. All other things being even, do I...
go Half Orc for Darkvision, Rock Climber and Sacred Tattoo...or...
stay human which allows me the monk's Evasion?

[Crosswind]

Brad McDowell wrote:

Front line melee build for PFS, dipping monk. All other things being even, do I...

go Half Orc for Darkvision, Rock Climber and Sacred Tattoo...or...
stay human which allows me the monk's Evasion?

...err, what? Why wouldn't you get Evasion as a half-orc also?

-Cross

[RainyDayNinja]

What would you spend the bonus feat on (or, what feats are you planning on taking in general), and how important are skills to you?

[Brad McDowell]

@Crosswind- Multiclass build design.
@Ninja- Irrelevant questions.

[Claxon]

Rock Climber, and Sacred Tattoo aren't really all that worth it IMO. The spell darkvision is a 2nd level spell that can be made permanent.

So...human.

[Zedorland]

Wait you want advice about which racial features to take, but when asked for information regarding how you would make use of them, you call irrelevance? On top of which you have some sort of house rule in effect which you have failed to describe in the opening post?

I'd go kobold. The penalty to con and strength should be made up for by the eye lasers my home group house ruled in.

[Brad McDowell]

Human and all its normalness, plus monk Evasion...or...
Half Orc with some alternate racial traits, but I lose monk's Evasion.

Pick one. Discuss why.

[Crosswind]

Okeydokey. Human + Evasion.

Just from a gold efficiency standpoint.

You can get more benefits of being a half-orc with a belt of dwarvenkind (~15k).

Evasion is 25k.

-Cross

[Brad McDowell]

Ew. Excellent point, Cross. Thanks. Darnit though, I'm really looking for reasons NOT to be a human. But I like your thinking.

And Zedor, I'm not trying to be snarky. I just have a very specific question, and I'm not a big fan of people telling me how to optimize my builds when I ask for advice. Also, if you notice, this is a PFS build. There's no houserules. There's PFS rules.

[Crosswind]

Brad McDowell wrote:

Ew. Excellent point, Cross. Thanks. Darnit though, I'm really looking for reasons NOT to be a human. But I like your thinking.

And Zedor, I'm not trying to be snarky. I just have a very specific question, and I'm not a big fan of people telling me how to optimize my builds when I ask for advice. Also, if you notice, this is a PFS build. There's no houserules. There's PFS rules.

...WELL, you could look at it this way instead. Belt of Dwarvenkind isn't EXACTLY the same.

It costs 1 item slot + 25k to get to evasion.

To get to the skill bonus, darkvision, and +1 to all saves costs 10k (ioun stone) + 12k (goggles of night) + pittance for the skill bonus

which isn't as imbalanced as buying the dwarf item. So we have either proven that Belt of Dwarvenkind is overpowered (it sorta is), or goggles of night are ridiculously overpriced (it sort of is), or some combo. =)

-Cross (Note that I'm trying to keep the "number of slots used" the same, which is why I buy an ioun stone instead of something else)