Need help building a character concept (Ranger / Alchemist)

[Volvogg]

Hi All,

My most recent character concept is that of an uber outdoors-man/herbalist. I happened upon the briar brewer archtype for the alchemist which was a perfect starting point. Shortly afterwards, in my search of applicable character options, I found the herbalist archetype and thought ... I win! However, my joy was cut short when I noticed the archetypes cannot be combined. Which brings me to the reason for my post; is there a method of combining the two "legally"? If not is there any other archetypes that are similar and if so where could those be located?

Thanks
Volf

[karossii]

Legally, no. They both replace mutagen.

As Herbalist is 3rd party material, I assume it is for a home game, and not PFS... You could always ask the DM to combine them; either giving up one ore more extra class features, or giving up one of the archetype benefits that overlaps.

[Volvogg]

karossii wrote:

Legally, no. They both replace mutagen.

As Herbalist is 3rd party material, I assume it is for a home game, and not PFS... You could always ask the DM to combine them; either giving up one ore more extra class features, or giving up one of the archetype benefits that overlaps.

Well that is definitely a bummer! I was hoping that there was something that I was missing. I guess I will just speak with my DM. In reality the only thing that I really want from the herbalist archetype is the "herbalism" ability. I would then combine this with the briar brewer archetype. With luck my DM will give me the go ahead.

Thanks for the help!

Volf

[Samasboy1]

I don't think it would be difficult to reconcile the differences.

They both alter how mutagen works rather than replace it outright. The changes aren't mutually exclusive, so you could just apply both.

If the DM thinks there should be more "cost" to combining the archetypes, he could charge you the 4th level Discovery, basically choosing Balm as a Discovery.

[Volvogg]

Samasboy1 wrote:

I don't think it would be difficult to reconcile the differences.

They both alter how mutagen works rather than replace it outright. The changes aren't mutually exclusive, so you could just apply both.

If the DM thinks there should be more "cost" to combining the archetypes, he could charge you the 4th level Discovery, basically choosing Balm as a Discovery.

Excellent point Samasboy1. My DM actually already approved combining them both and in fact did exactly as you mentioned (I had to give up my 4th lvl discovery). The group feels like its nice and balanced now.

Cheers
Volf