Bladebound Scarf Dancer?


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Ok,
So, quick question.

Bladebound says the magus has any 'one-handed slashing weapon' as the bound blade.

The Bladebound seems to merge (as it does with every other archetype) with the Bladed Scarf Dancer Archetype.

At first level, the Bladed Scarf Dancer gains proficiency with a Bladed Scarf (a two-handed slashing weapon), but also has a class feature that let's them wield it as a one-handed weapon.

So, I think from a 'rule of cool' standpoint, a sentient black scarf with hidden wicked black razor blades would rank fairly high up on the list.

From a strict RAW, it'd be iffy, given it's actually on the two-handed chart (although given the archetype wields it one-handed, and the black blade is a magus specific thing), I think it could be argued to work. At least in a home game. :)

What do you think?


Hmm... interesting. I do see your problem. I have a question, though. Isn't a rapier, a one-handed slashing weapon, a two-handed weapon for a Small character? But a rapier can still be a black blade.

So, perhaps the requirement is in how you use it?


Nitpick: the rapier is a piercing weapon, so it can' tube a black blade.

@mdt: it sounds reasonable to allow it, especially since it's so cool a visual.


Yeah, it's not overpowered in any way shape or form (1d4 weapon), but it is a cool visual. :)

Silver Crusade

Good God that is an awesome visual to work with.


@Azten- there's a special exemption, rapiers can be black blades. Like sword-canes.


GM Arkwright wrote:
@Azten- there's a special exemption, rapiers can be black blades. Like sword-canes.

Yeah, I think the logic is, they have to be finessable and wieldable one handed (which the bladed scarf meets).


Mikaze wrote:
Good God that is an awesome visual to work with.

Yeah, I'm seriously thinking about an Android Bladebound Bladed Scarf Dancer. The android creation unit basically chomped a couple of dead adventurers for raw material, and ate a pair of magi, a blade bound and a scarf dancer. So the character emerged with the black blade scarf around her neck, and some residual memories and training from the magus. Took the black blade awhile (until 3rd level) to regain itself after being put through an android building subsystem. :)


I really like this. Your GM would be crazy not to allow you to do this.

Plus, an indestructible scarf could probably come in handy, with a bit of creativity.


What if you use the magus Arcana that allow him to use maneuvers using his magus level instead of at his BaB? Trip, disarm, and grapple...with a sentient, indestructible scarf? The only thing that could be better if the scarf was snarky.

Post Note: Not to mention the stealing and teleportation abilities. This really sounds like a fun concept. This is why I like tabletop gaming- there are always fun character concepts.


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I wonder if I should do a 20 foot long multicolored scarf and carry gelled sugar ursines in my pocket and offer them to confused people. :)


No. No you may not.


Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
No. No you may not.

While I suspect I know why, simply making a statement is of little help. If you don't want to bother giving a statement of why you think something is the case, then I politely suggest you're not really helping by posting.


mdt wrote:
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
No. No you may not.
While I suspect I know why, simply making a statement is of little help. If you don't want to bother giving a statement of why you think something is the case, then I politely suggest you're not really helping by posting.

Sorry, just a joke. (I was referring to your Dr Who reference.)


Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
mdt wrote:
Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
No. No you may not.
While I suspect I know why, simply making a statement is of little help. If you don't want to bother giving a statement of why you think something is the case, then I politely suggest you're not really helping by posting.
Sorry, just a joke. (I was referring to your Dr Who reference.)

*facepalm*

Oh, sorry then. Ignore my earlier post. I should take 10 to post in any other thread after dealing with someone in a 'free action' thread telling me I'm whining because I can't cheese my character build in PFS*.

MDT

*I'm the GM, and I don't play or run in PFS. :)


Not only do I think this is a cool idea and should work, I suggested a build along these lines in this thread


Unfortunately, for it to work where we're at in the game, I need someone who can be brought in due to having been trapped (we're deep in a dungeon). I was under the impression that Androids didn't age, being constructed. But apparently they do age. Which means an android trapped for 50 years would have died of old age. :(

Now I'm looking at an unfettered Eidelon, as outsiders don't age. :(


If I may ask, where's the information on android aging?

Note: This is the first time I've seen the android entry, and it's making me want to go buy that bestiary. : D ("EXTERNAL APPEARANCE IS DOWN FIVE PERCENT. SHION, I NEED TO BE CLEANED.")


blahpers wrote:

If I may ask, where's the information on android aging?

Note: This is the first time I've seen the android entry, and it's making me want to go buy that bestiary. : D

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Granted it's not an official FAQ or anything. But since it doesn't say they don't in the writeup...


Hmm, I suppose. Aging as a human is a bit of a rear-pull, though; they only look mostly like humans, and there are plenty of human-looking races that age more slowly.


blahpers wrote:
Hmm, I suppose. Aging as a human is a bit of a rear-pull, though; they only look mostly like humans, and there are plenty of human-looking races that age more slowly.

My GM was jazzed about it, so I might ask her how she wants to run androids. If she decides they don't age, no big deal. Or if she decides they age really really really slowly.

Honestly there's nothing broken about not aging as long as you don't combine it with age benefits.

Silver Crusade

Couldn't the android spend most of that time in stasis/deactivated/waiting-to-be-booted-up?


Mikaze wrote:
Couldn't the android spend most of that time in stasis/deactivated/waiting-to-be-booted-up?

Can your human do so?

EDIT : Sorry, didn't mean for that to sound so snarky.

Just trying to say, unless the GM hand waves it, it's no go. And if she's gonna hand wave it, it'll probalby just be to get rid of the aging all together. It doesn't really affect anything game wise.


I think the problem/disconnect is with the name "Androids." Android causes me (and most others I am sure) to think of a sentient robot, like Data from Star Trek.

But that's not really what they are. They are biological organisms, just artificially created.

Grand Lodge

So, will you wear your indestructible, intelligent scarf ironically?

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Scarf Dancer obviously enables the magus to spell combat with it. That's the obvious intention of being able to wield it as a one-handed weapon. Since the bladed scarf is sufficient for spell combat, I don't see why it wouldn't be sufficient to be a black blade, especially when the weapon is specifically designed for magi.

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Sry to necro this thread, but I've looked through the forums for the same answer for a Bladebound Kapenia Dancer build, about the bladed scarf being used as the black blade, but for PFS. Is this viable for that format?


By letter-of-the-rules RAW, no. The Bladed Scarf is a two-handed weapon that the Magus can happen to wield in an unusual way, so since one handed =/= two-handed it does not work.

I think you could pull it off in basically any home game ever, but I wouldn't try it in PFS.

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