So, Ive started working on a scarred witch doctor build. I've decided to do some weirdness, and make an orchish eldritch heritage build. I've always wanted to try a "feral" orc. I've always liked the idea of a scarred witch doctor grunting and gesticulating.
Orc (feral, dayrunner)
Stats (25 pts)
Str 16 Dex 12 Con 16 Int 10 Wis 10 Cha 13
Patron : Endurance
1 Skill focus (?)
2 Scarshield
3 Eldritch Heritage (?)
4 Hex: Cackle +1 Cha
5 Accursed Hex
6 Hex: Misfortune
7 ?
8 Hex: Evil eye +1 Cha
9 ?
10 Hex: (?)
11 Improved Eldritch Heritage
12 Hex (?) +1 con
13 ?
14 Hex (?)
15 ?
16 Hex (?)
17 Greater eldritch heritage (maybe)
18 Hex (?)
19 ?
20 Hex(?)
So, I'm trying to see ways to best use eldritch heritage. The "best" would probably be Pit-Touched. I've seen a lot of DMs saying they would allow EH with wildblooded bloodlines, so i'm considering it. It would basically allow me a +6 con by level 19, which would be awesome.
Orc would probably be a good solution too, since you can get a +6 strength. The usefulness would be limited though.
I'm wondering if anybody who knows bloodlines better that could recommend something that would work with the theme. I might take greater eldritch heritage, if I can get a tome of leaderhip and influence (or by using wish/miracle).
The same goes for feats/hexes. I've been looking at vikingirishman's guide, but nothing stands out.
Any ideas for weapons as well? The scarred witch doctor is supposed to be a tank, but I don't see any weapons that would be great (especially considering I took the feral racial trait, and thus am limited to simple weapons).
I know very well, but I really want to try out the "feral orc" character concept. It's actually a racial ability, that leaves the orc without weapon familiarity or languages. I just like the idea.
Pretty sure it says otherwise in the entry...
It doesnt specifically say bonus spells. Still, whatever I do, if that is indeed the case, I cant really compensate for it, I'm an Orc. I'll have to do without bonus spells. I'm already boosting my cha, cant boost intelligence too. At low level it would be significant, but not too bad since the scarred witch doctor is slightly less spell-oriented than others.
I would rather interpret it to include bonus spells.
I think this is a case of something being omitted by accident rather than intentional. I think the RAI is that it should be based of Con, as everything else to do with spell casting for this archetype is.
I did something similar with rolled scores once. It was a blast. I used the orc bloodline though. I went for an "destined for leadership" feel.
It would work a lot better with a decent rolled score, I admit. Still, trying to make it work. Any other bloodline tips?
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Just keep in mind that your bonus spell per level is still based off Int, not Con.Proof?
From the PRD
Constitution Dependent: A scarred witch doctor uses Constitution instead of Intelligence when determining the highest level of spells she can cast, her spell save DCs, number of spells known at 1st level, and any effects of her hexes normally determined by her Intelligence.As it quite clearly lays out all the things that it uses Con instead of Int for, it does not mention bonus spells.
So either that was an oversight or it was intentional, either way, if it isn't listed, it isn't RAW.
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Further when you compare the wording of the Empyreal Sorc
Bloodline Arcana: Unlike most sorcerers whose innate magic is powered by force of personality, you use pure willpower to master and fuel your magic. You use your Wisdom, rather than your Charisma, to determine all class features and effects relating to your sorcerer class, such as bonus spells per day, maximum spell level you can cast, and the save DCs of your spells. You gain a +2 bonus on all Heal and Knowledge (religion) checks.
Or the Sage Sorc
Bloodline Arcana: Unlike most sorcerers, whose innate magic is powered by force of personality, you use your intellect to understand and master your mystic powers. You use your Intelligence, rather than your Charisma, to determine all class features and effects relating to your sorcerer class, such as bonus spells per day, the maximum spell level you can cast, the save DCs of your spells, and the number of daily uses of your bloodline powers. You gain a +2 bonus on all Knowledge (arcana) and Spellcraft checks.
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It seems apparent that the bonus spells/day is just not there. Having a single stat a Con as your spell casting stat and then use it for bonus spells as well... seems pretty powerful. Again whether it was typo or intentional it just isn't one of the things you get to add.
Could you convince your DM that it should be RAI, sure. Could you convince me... probably not. :)
Oh, dont worry W. John hare, I did all the same checks to you and came to the same conclusion. It's a bit disappointing, but that's all.
But yeah, I dont inted to make it an evil char... neutral at worst. If I ever get to play her, I'll see how easily the feralness can be dealt with.
Eh, seems more like the type of thing that they would consider "not worth answering". In any case, any tips for the build?
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