A Number of Alchemist Bomb Questions


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Pathfinder newbie here. Table-top newbie in fact. 36 years old. Never too late to start. Soo many questions. Here are some I cannot find definitive answers to:

Targeted Bomb Admixture states: "When you throw bombs, they can only hit a direct target; they do not splash. ..."

Throw anything states: "You receive a +1 circumstance bonus on attack rolls made with thrown splash weapons."

So my alchemist, "Throtch Shartflinger" (stink bombs baby!) has just chugged his targeted bomb admixture and is chucking a bomb at a qlippoth. Does he get the +1 to attack even though the bomb no longer does splash damage? Is the bomb still technically a "splash weapon" despite not doing splash damage anymore?

Also, Stink Bombs, Smoke Bombs, etc: do they still do splash damage? As far as I can tell from the forums here and elsewhere, they do still do direct damage (which makes sense: they have to explode to release the cloud) but I've seen no definitive answer to the question of splash damage (which may or may not make sense: I was under the impression that the fog/stinking cloud replaces the splash part of the bomb.) Some threads have even suggested that smoke/stink/incendiary cloud bombs do no direct damage either.

And finally, Point Blank Shot: "You get a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls with ranged weapons at ranges of up to 30 feet." It definitely applies to direct damage with bombs, but does it effect the splash damage?

The splash damage for bombs states "Splash damage from an alchemist bomb is always equal to the bomb's minimum damage..." which leads one to believe that yes, PBS would effect the splash damage since it is in effect raising the minimum bomb damage, but due to the nature of PBS, that kind of doesn't make sense...

Any answers would be greatly appreciated.


Yes, PBS affects the splash damage of your bombs.

As far as the other questions, I have used this guide to assist me with my Alchemist.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=293307


Sinusoidal wrote:

Pathfinder newbie here. Table-top newbie in fact. 36 years old. Never too late to start. Soo many questions. Here are some I cannot find definitive answers to:

Targeted Bomb Admixture states: "When you throw bombs, they can only hit a direct target; they do not splash. ..."

Throw anything states: "You receive a +1 circumstance bonus on attack rolls made with thrown splash weapons."

So my alchemist, "Throtch Shartflinger" (stink bombs baby!) has just chugged his targeted bomb admixture and is chucking a bomb at a qlippoth. Does he get the +1 to attack even though the bomb no longer does splash damage? Is the bomb still technically a "splash weapon" despite not doing splash damage anymore?

Yes.

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Also, Stink Bombs, Smoke Bombs, etc: do they still do splash damage? As far as I can tell from the forums here and elsewhere, they do still do direct damage (which makes sense: they have to explode to release the cloud) but I've seen no definitive answer to the question of splash damage (which may or may not make sense: I was under the impression that the fog/stinking cloud replaces the splash part of the bomb.) Some threads have even suggested that smoke/stink/incendiary cloud bombs do no direct damage either.

Certainly should.

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And finally, Point Blank Shot: "You get a +1 bonus on attack and damage rolls with ranged weapons at ranges of up to 30 feet." It definitely applies to direct damage with bombs, but does it effect the splash damage?

The splash damage for bombs states "Splash damage from an alchemist bomb is always equal to the bomb's minimum damage..." which leads one to believe that yes, PBS would effect the splash damage since it is in effect raising the minimum bomb damage, but due to the nature of PBS, that kind of doesn't make sense...
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I believe point blank shot applies to the direct hit but not the splash damage. I read that on the boards somewhere. Not sure if official or just some post, though.

Silver Crusade

Durngrun Stonebreaker wrote:
I believe point blank shot applies to the direct hit but not the splash damage. I read that on the boards somewhere. Not sure if official or just some post, though.

This is correct and it was clarified by the devs. I do not have a link to the post but I believe it made it into the FAQ.


Thank you Dorian, Durngrun and Errantpursuit!

Well, that's those then. At least I'm hoping the debate stops here as the vast majority of answers were to my benefit. :D


Yes, stink bombs still do direct and splash damage. It's not super-clear, but the stink effect is an additional effect, not a replacement.


Concur with Durngrun, PupSocket & ErrantPursuit. And I wanted to add the quickest way to find the official Paizo FAQ for Pathfinder is to go over to the left and it's Help\FAQ link right above the the grey "Shop" bar.
Once there, they are all sorted by book and generally the order stuff is presented in the books. The supporting FAQs to answers above are in the Advanced Player's except for the bit about PBS and splash, which is in the Core Rules part under Point Blank Shot.


did not know that.. That makes it so much cooler


Also don't confuse the clouds created by Smoke Bomb, etc with the splash from those bombs (which you still get). So for example Precise Bomb will work with the fire splash, but not the cloud.

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