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DO I get +2 to all attacks if I pounce and full attack? Or only to the 1st hit?
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I believe it's just the first attack following the charge that gains the +2.
I also believe this is one of those RAW rulings that isn't specific enough to 100% determine that... if I remember correctly from other threads on the forum.
If we look at the RAW of it:
Charge
Charging is a special full-round action that allows you to move up to twice your speed and attack during the action. Charging, however, carries tight restrictions on how you can move.
Attacking on a Charge: After moving, you may make a single melee attack. You get a +2 bonus on the attack roll and take a –2 penalty to your AC until the start of your next turn.
A charging character gets a +2 bonus on combat maneuver attack rolls made to bull rush an opponent.
Even if you have extra attacks, such as from having a high enough base attack bonus or from using multiple weapons, you only get to make one attack during a charge.
Then we have:
Pounce (Ex)
When a creature with this special attack makes a charge, it can make a full attack (including rake attacks if the creature also has the rake ability).
Format: pounce; Location: Special Attacks.
Pounce is combining them in sequence, but not in entirety. The Charge part is still separate. As Charge states, "After moving, you may make a single melee attack. You get a +2 bonus on the attack roll, and take a -2 penalty to your AC until the start of your next turn."
The attack roll it refers to is the one made after the charge. Meaning the one single attack that charge grants. Not the full attack that you may or may not choose to follow up with. The -2 to AC; however, sticks with you until the start of the next turn.
I hope this helps.
Time to do some FAQ searching for yah...
Thanks. If you do find FAQ that would be nice. I think the only reason it says attack roll (singular) is because of the context, since it says "single melee attack".
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Hmm... FAQ lost me abit. It seems to be talking about charge and full attack but i cant seem to get which part talks about the +2 being applied to every hit.
True, that FAQ only clears up that you can take iteratives on a full-attack (there was some disagreement on this since it's more difficult to visualize compared to natural pounce).
What if it IS a natural pounce? Does a lion get the +2 to all the attacks?
I thought I saw it as well, but I sure as hell can't find it.
Hmm... gotta convince my gm somehow...
So, I guess there is nothing out there that clearly says "+2 applies to all pounce attacks"? (Like if you are a lion)
Time to get this FAQ'd :D
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I'm a little less sure all of them would, given this ruling.
But they may be two different things.
They can be, as several designer posts have made it clear that pounce with natural attacks is intended to represent multiple simultaneous or near-simultaneous attacks. Never mind that you can choose which creature to attack after each attack resolves just as you can with iterative attacks, two-weapon fighting, and so on.
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I'm a little less sure all of them would, given this ruling.
But they may be two different things.
I was about to link in this same FAQ, where SKR indicates that iterative weapon attacks are specifically called out as not gaining charge bonuses.
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Hi, I actually just signed up in order to say thank you to Malachi Silverclaw! The answer is indeed in the 3.5 Rules Compendium, on page 101. It reads as follows:
Pounce
When a creature that has this extraordinary special attack charges, it can still make a full attack even if it charged while restricted to a single action. All its attacks receive the +2 bonus on attack rolls gained from charging. If it uses its attacks to successfully start a grapple, and it has the rake ability, it can also make rake attacks.
WWUUUTTT. Noted and Thank you! I'm not sure how much 3.5 helps with Pathfinder though... but it's none-the-less something to bring to the table.
Indeed, it's helpful as a default stance, but it's not really definitive for PF given its significant changes to combat actions.