Question about combat feats

[dreamspeaker]

I have been told that when combat feats that says "When making a full-attack action" that this badly worded and you can stack these feats if you have more that on attack.

Example I have 2 attacks I still get my 2 attack plus can use Manyshot and
Rapid Shot and Not that I can only use one of these feats.

[Darksol the Painbringer]

The RAW says that the effects of the feat occur when you are making a full attack. Unless there is language that says (or concludes) that you cannot combine the effects of feats, there should be nothing or any reason that says you can't (outside of GM FIAT, in which case that portion is irrelevant here).

In your example, yes, you are correct.

[Xaratherus]

Specifically what you want to look at is this:

Does the feat state that using the feat itself is a full attack action, or that the feat can be used while\when making a full attack action? The former means that you couldn't stack it; the latter means you could.

[Michael Sayre]

What X said. You aren't combining Full Attack actions, you have two separate riders that can be used with a Full Attack action.

[dreamspeaker]

so what your saying is that both feats can be used in the same round.

[Michael Sayre]

dreamspeaker wrote:

so what your saying is that both feats can be used in the same round.

Correct.

[dreamspeaker]

thanks just wish they had worded the combat feats a bit better

[RuffPanda]

For the Weapon Specialisation feat from the core book, where it states that 4 levels of fighter are required, is this specific to the Fighter class ONLY or open to all fighter types?
I have a 6th level Ranger and want to take the feat but my GM seems to think I can’t, whereas I think I can because a Ranger is surely a fighter-type?
Please advise, thank you.

[Havzak]

No, it is only for Fighters or classes in which it specifically says you can use that class level as fighter levels to take them, such as warpriest, brawler and swashbuckler.

[Shyning]

RuffPanda wrote:

For the Weapon Specialisation feat from the core book, where it states that 4 levels of fighter are required, is this specific to the Fighter class ONLY or open to all fighter types?

I have a 6th level Ranger and want to take the feat but my GM seems to think I can’t, whereas I think I can because a Ranger is surely a fighter-type?
Please advise, thank you.

Unless you have a class ability that lets you pick "Fighter feats" by saying "Your level (or half your level of x class) counts towards fighters levels for feats requirements" or something close to this, then no, you can't pick this feat.

When a feat asks for "Fighter 4" it literally means four levels in the Fighter class.
You're often able to get these feats with bonus feats in martial classes, either it says you can count a certain number of your levels in your class as fighter levels for these prerequisites or completely tells your that you do not need to meet the requirements of these feats.
But ONLY in these cases. If there's no such thing, you HAVE to meet the prerequisites which, in your example, requires 4 levels of Fighter.

[Claxon]

Weapon Specialization requires you to have 4 levels of fighter class, characters without 4 levels in fighter cannot take the feat.

There is no such thing as "fighter types" with respect to game rules.

[RuffPanda]

Havzak, Shyning & Claxon, thank you all. That's very clear now and explained much better than my GM explained it.