Venture-Captain, Washington—Spokane
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Eric, they actually did get a facelift before GenCon. If you click here it should download all the CRB and UC pregens. Each class will have a lvl 1, 4, and 7 pregen available.
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Yup, I messed up, my wireless mouse was on the fritz, so I was not getting its full use. Thx for letting me know.
BTW, do these just look different or are they more optimized than the previous ones.
Also, are all of them legal at a table or are some not "legal" for PFS. I remember there was a spell on one of them, that was not legal.
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Venture-Captain, Washington—Spokane
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No worries, glad I could help. I have not had the chance to review them against the originals so I would not know for sure. They are all legal for PFS use. I will have to look at the spells on the casters to see if that is the case, unless someone else pipes in and advises.
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Are these the only pregens legal for PFS play? Master of the Fallen Fortress has the APG iconics so are those legal as well or are only the downloadable ones legal?
The pregens in MotFF are not PFS legal. They are 15 point buy, so underpowered for PFS, along with having non-PFS legal options on them, at times.
Other than the PFS pregens in the link earlier, the only other predgens I can remnember that are legal to use, andthat only in limited circumstances, are the pregens for We Be Goblins!, We Be Goblins, Too!, and Dawn of the Scarlet Sun. And the pregens are only usable for the specific module they came with. And all of them, as far as I can see, are Free RPG Day modules, to boot.
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Thank you for the prompt reply. I thought the APG pregens in MotFF were likely not legal for play but wanted to ask before I put them out as options in my upcoming open society game at my local library. I wonder why the APG iconics haven't been done up but the UC ones have been. That seems like an odd choice of product to promote/ignore.
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It seems weird to me that they would offer up non-core pregens that weren't the APG classes. I imagine a player grabbing a pregen for an event that looks interesting then going 'wow, I played an inquisitor at a PFS game last night and it was awesome, I totally need to pick up the APG" or something along those lines.
Which makes me wonder (since I am in the business of selling books myself) is it legal for a location to make in-house pregens?
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Any word on when we can expect to see pregens for the Alchemist, Cavalier, Inquisitor, Oracle, Magus, Summoner, and Witch?
As Jeff said above, we believe them to be "on the list" but my guess is they are not super high priority.
And besides for the Oracle, I hope never.
Why? There is a reason these classes are in the Advanced Player's Guide. The majority of these classes are crazy complicated to run (Summoner, Magus) or have a lot more options than CRB classes (Alchemist). I would dread explaining a new player how a Magus works. Alchemists would be a huge case of analysis paralysis (bombs, extracts, discoveries, mutagens...).
The Oracle would be a neat addition, because they are mostly a "divine sorcerer", with a curse and mystery abilities instead of bloodline powers, for example. My only concern is sadly the iconic oracle has the Clouded Vision curse, which is also a bit harder to grok by new players than say, lame curse. I still think they would be easier on new players than Kyra, for the same reason I think the Seoni pregen is easier than Ezren.
Yes, APG pregens would be neat for experienced players who need a level 4 or 7 character to play in a game they have no character in range for, but the target audience for pregens are new players.
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I'm a bit confused then as to why the Samurai is a pregen character but not the Cavalier? The Samurai from what I understand is based off the Cavalier, and both are (I think) a bit confusing to play when somebody could just have a Fighter or Paladin instead. And while some of those are difficult classes for beginners, the Inquisitor is actually pretty easy.
I think PFS could swap out the Samurai pregen for an Inquisitor one, especially now that the Lantern Lodge is retired and we're all fighting demons.
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I'm a bit confused then as to why the Samurai is a pregen character but not the Cavalier? The Samurai from what I understand is based off the Cavalier, and both are (I think) a bit confusing to play when somebody could just have a Fighter or Paladin instead.
Actually, the funny thing is the answer is related to your previous post. Book sales promotion. Samurai, Ninja and Gunslinger pregens all came out when Ultimate Combat came out as well, as a way to promote the book.