Soon as I can do so I'll make a thread about the degeneration of the OTD section. I can't start a new thread though; can't open the OTD or any other section really.
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exactly. and, maybe they were right. Sometimes, old people actually know stuff. It's amazing.
It's a way of expression. It also connotates tribalism.
The same way a lot of rich, older women get facelifts and botox injections. But why am I not surprised that you didn't link to a picture of that?
exactly. and, maybe they were right. Sometimes, old people actually know stuff. It's amazing.It's a way of expression. It also connotates tribalism.
The same way a lot of rich, older women get facelifts and botox injections. But why am I not surprised that you didn't link to a picture of that?
Some folks just take things too far, and society probably suffers for it.
We only have the illusion of things getting better.
First book of Yankees, Chapter 12
Yanks 154:26-30
The book of Psongs
Never forget. Never comprimise. No matter the cost. We are all the chosen tribe.
exactly. and, maybe they were right. Sometimes, old people actually know stuff. It's amazing.
Those are probably the same old people that went in for that new fangled electric shock therapy when they were kids.
There are always stupid people. The only things that have changed is how that stupidity has expressed itself, and how many people get to see it.
Cave men: the 3 guys in the woods with you
Bronze age: the entire city
Printing press: anyone that can read
Photography: pass around the photo
Internet: 3 billion people with an internet connection.
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Some folks just take things too far, and society probably suffers for it.
I'm not seeing the connection between body decorations and the degeneration of society (except from a reactionary point of view, although that in itself doesn't prove anything).
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Back in my day we didn't make pointless threads talking about the decline of civilization.
I'd say something about back in my day but that would presume that somehow someone took it from me or that I somehow foolishly lost it.. I'm not dead yet. Its still my day dammit! Go find your own day. And get off my lawn!
Some folks just take things too far, and society probably suffers for it.I'm not seeing the connection between body decorations and the degeneration of society (except from a reactionary point of view, although that in itself doesn't prove anything).
Hope that helps!!!!
Back in my day we didn't make pointless threads talking about the decline of civilization.
This is the "barber shop" now.
{dons robe and wizard energy dome} Meh, already on the second page, and no one has mentioned Devo yet?! All of you, except Anklebiter, are hereby labeled musical philistines and sentenced to life without parole in the Muzak mines of Rura Penthe.
I miss my wife's grandmother, who lived in England during WWII when she was younger. As an old lady, whenever someone would say "Things were so much better in my day!" her head would whip around and she'd state, "Then you obviously weren't paying attention!"
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I think it's more supposed to mean that old people always say that about the "youth of today" and that it's not actually true. They're comparing their adult view of what today's kids are like with their idealized memories of what they were like.
I've always taken it as "You have become your father, and forgotten you were once your son."
I've always taken it as "You have become your father, and forgotten you were once your son."
Shhhhhh! George Lucas has bothans everywhere just looking for ideas to ruin the next films.
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There is no rock bottom to ruined. They can always get worse.
I've always taken it as "You have become your father, and forgotten you were once your son."Shhhhhh! George Lucas has bothans everywhere just looking for ideas to ruin the next films.
That sounds like an improvement over the last films. It would be tossed out on the cutting room floor.
{dons robe and wizard energy dome} Meh, already on the second page, and no one has mentioned Devo yet?! All of you, except Anklebiter, are hereby labeled musical philistines and sentenced to life without parole in the Muzak mines of Rura Penthe.
GG Allin didn't just sing about the devolution of society.
I think it's more supposed to mean that old people always say that about the "youth of today" and that it's not actually true. They're comparing their adult view of what today's kids are like with their idealized memories of what they were like.I've always taken it as "You have become your father, and forgotten you were once your son."
When you have your own kids, you end up forgiving your father one thousand times, and being ashamed at your own youthful arrogance.
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Double Musical Interlude:
The Night G.G. Allin Came to Town
G.G., of course, was a proud son of New Hampshire (Live Free or Die!!), but I never really got into him.
Devo, on the other hand...
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Ye-Ye-Ye-Ye-Ye-Yeah!
The whole f$&!ing album.
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I blame the communists. Also the goblins. Especially the communist goblins.
Double Musical Interlude:
The Night G.G. Allin Came to Town
G.G., of course, was a proud son of New Hampshire (Live Free or Die!!), but I never really got into him.
Devo, on the other hand...
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Ye-Ye-Ye-Ye-Ye-Yeah!
The whole f+%!ing album.
Don't get me wrong... musically Devo is waaaaaay better than GG Allin, though that isn't really saying a lot (he wasn't a bad musician, pretty mediocre overall imo). Where as Devo sang about society's ills, GG Allin tried to personify them.
"Bite it you scum" is a fairly typical example of what he did at his shows. He subscribed to the concept of "always leave them wanting less".
Don't get me wrong...I never got into G.G., but I had tons of friends who did...a G.G. sighting on Elm Street in Manchester, NH was the talk of the town (well, okay, the punk rock kids) growing up. And it was amusing whenever he did his David Allan Coe "covers."
As a goblin, I am impressed with any performer who sticks the microphone up his rectum as part of the show.
The act itself isn't impressive, it's the dedication to the show.
[Shrugs]
I'm impressed either way.
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A clear sign that society is degenerating is that there is no one on a soapbox lamenting the degeneration of society.
*glances around*
We're fine. ;)
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(Harris Poll, 2009) 26% of Americans believe in astrology.
(2012 Gallup poll) 46% of Americans believe in creationism.
(CBS/New York Times poll in 2011) 25% of Americans think President Obama was not born in the U.S.
(Pew Research Center, April 2013) 31% of Americans still deny the existence of global warming.
I know I'm playing necromancer here, but let me resurrect this point to say that this is not so much a sign of the degeneration of society as a broken society that is recuperating.
All of those horrible statistics you keep reading about can largely be blamed on the Baby Boomers. Boomers---not to a one, of course, but statistically as a generation---oversaw the decline of science education in our classrooms and decided to play make believe about the realities of climate change. Even things like Astrology owe their mainstream popularity to middle-aged housewives in the 80s and 90s. (Molly Ivins did some great pieces about this in the Bush I years.)
The youngest generation, by and large, accept the threat of climate change and the science behind it. Fewer are religious, and fewer among them still buy Young Earth Creationism. They're actually MORE family oriented, and almost none believe Birtherism non-sense.
I actually have some hope for the future, believe it or not. Those stats are depressing right now, but they'll get better with each successive generation leaving the superstitions and predilections of its forebears further behind.
Science! She blinded me with it and stuff.
I would first like to note Shadow's post in that I also feel like much of the younger generation do accept climate change, the science behind it, and are more resistant to religion as a source of fact.
Second I would like someone to define what it means for society to degrade( not me cuz i am lazy, see what I did there hehe). Of course more people will initially say it was better and now it is not. Compared to yesterday, last month, last year? Second maybe the society around you seems to be degrading but we are starting to become a world society, whether people like it or not. What is society like in China compared to whenever you want to compare to? England or India?
In my opinion I do not believe society is degrading. Changing yes, but I don't think degrading by far.