Tengu Monk unarmed strike


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if I take the

Claw Attack: Tengus with this racial trait have learned
to use their claws as natural weapons. They gain two claw
attacks as primary natural attacks that deal 1d3 points of
damage, and are treated as having the Improved Unarmed
Strike feat for the purpose of qualifying for other feats.
This racial trait replaces swordtrained.

and make an monk unarmed strike can I apply the 1d3 to the 1d6 damage roll?

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to better explain what I'm asking is this: say I spear hand someone that would be considered an unarmed strike therefore 1d6 but if I'm doing that why wouldn't I be able to apply the d3 to the 1d6 for having claws as a natural weapon i/e part of my hand or is this a case of the claws are 'equipped' therefore taking place of the unarmed strike(yet being treated as having the improved unarmed strike feat)?


Because you spear handed them, you didn't scratch them with your tiny claws.

No, you cannot add weapons on top of weapons. A dagger does 1d4 damage. 3 daggers attached to a quarterstaff (AKA trident) does not do 3d4+1d6 damage.


nope but when you make a fully attack you may add the claws in as a extra attack = BAB -5 and do half str damage. I don't remember if you could add them to a flurry.


In answer to the OP's question, no you don't stack weapon damage like that. You're either using your unarmed strike or your natural attack, not both on the same attack. Further, unless you take Feral Combat Training you can't use Flurry of Blows with natural attacks.


Personally, id opt for the swordtraining. Nine ring broadsword is a really nice monk weapon you can flurry with!


In order to flurry with natural attacks, you need to take Feral Combat Training. It only applies to one particular natural attack and you can only take the feat once. So, if you had, for the sake of example, two claws, two talons, and a bite attack, you could take Feral Combat Training (Claws) which allows you to treat Claws as if they were a Monk weapon. You won't get "extra" attacks with them like you'd normally get adding natural attacks to a full-attack, but you could "replace" any normal flurry attack with Claws instead of with Unarmed Strike at your option. It also allows you to treat your Claws as Unarmed Strikes for any feats or abilities that focus or rely on Unarmed Strikes so you could, for example, make a Claw attack instead of an Unarmed Strike for Vicious Stomp or Snake Style "on miss" AoO or Panther Style retaliatory strike.

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Thank you all

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