Specifically, I want to have a white trash type character. I have been inspired by this song specifically as well as by Larry Correia's depiction of elves.
But would a white trash pathfinder character be an elf? The halfling stereotype would fit as well, especially if you throw in Bored of the Rings. Humans or any sort of half breed could work.
What about class though? That's the stumper right there.
Anyone have any suggestions? I'd like to stay as close to Core as possible.
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Urban barbarian. By the way... Maybe the oddest thread I have seen at Paizo. Congrats.
Urban barbarian. By the way... Maybe the oddest thread I have seen at Paizo. Congrats.
That's a good choice for a fighter. And thanks :)
If we throw 'Breaking Bad' into the mix, alchemist might be a choice.
Lol. I think you need to go half Orc and definitely get the improvisational weapon feats (beer bottle, ash tray).
1. Make sure that he/she has two first names IE Jimmy Bob or Mary Sue.
2. Make sure the character loves all things loud and obnoxious and anyone who does not like them is a "fairy" -see #6
4. The character needs to consider fart jokes and nut shots to be the funniest things ever.
5. The character can never work unless he/she is working on a scheme to make money that will never work out or manufacturing drugs.
6. Racism, sexism, and homophobia are required.
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Stereotypes rock!
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Stereotypes: The great time saver!
Played a Urban/Brutal Pugilist Barbarian. He wrestled well enough to pummel a guy a few levels higher than him while keeping him grappled.
Wasn't white trash though...course maybe for that time period he was...
Indeed. Some stereotypes are A-ok.
I wanna base a character off of Sam Jackson's butler in Django!
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Dicey the House Goblin should be around anytime now to answer your question.
As to the larger issues at stake: "white", black, red, yellow, all you pinkskins suck.
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I'd watch a bit of 'Justified' for inspiration. Specifically, the characters of Dickie Bennett and Dewey Crowe should offer great material.
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That show is really well done.
I had a lot of fun playing a redneck ranger. He was human, but raised by elves -- he was bigger and stronger than they were, so he used a greatsword (made up a new ranger combat style for that). And he had a crush on his half-sister.
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Unarmed Fighter. And you need to say things like "Pain don't hurt!" when you take damage.
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Redneck bard with a banjo. "Paddle faster..." Avoid the temptation to take 'perform - jawharp.'
A farmboy Monk who developed his grappling and martial arts and acrobatics skills tyin' hogs and wrasslin' gators and bareback-bronco-bustin' could be fun. A Monk with a chewing tobacco habit and ten gallon hat and leather chaps over his breeches would probably raise some brows.
Gunslinger. Complete with an inexplicable and often environmentally inappropriate tumbleweed that blows by whenever he rolls initiative.
An evil druid, straight out of Children of the Corn, sacrificing people to keep the crops growing. "Sorry mister, it's jest the way it's gotta be. We can't feed our hungry, if we don't give back to the land..."
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Redneck bard with a banjo. "Paddle faster..." Avoid the temptation to take 'perform - jawharp.'
A farmboy Monk who developed his grappling and martial arts and acrobatics skills tyin' hogs and wrasslin' gators and bareback-bronco-bustin' could be fun. A Monk with a chewing tobacco habit and ten gallon hat and leather chaps over his breeches would probably raise some brows.
Gunslinger. Complete with an inexplicable and often environmentally inappropriate tumbleweed that blows by whenever he rolls initiative.
An evil druid, straight out of Children of the Corn, sacrificing people to keep the crops growing. "Sorry mister, it's jest the way it's gotta be. We can't feed our hungry, if we don't give back to the land..."
That monk could almost get me to play a monk!
Really? No Roadhouse fans?
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"Yew got a purty mouth, boy. Lemme hear ya squeal like a pig!"
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Every time I see this thread, I'm tempted to start a new one whose title is some other racial slur, just to see what derogatory terms posters can and can't get away with in thread titles.
I know, right? Terrible term that somehow manages to not only insult whatever white person or group it's directed at, but also insults every non-white person ever, by stating that white people who happen to also be 'trash' need a special term to describe them, since, unlike all the other colors of folk, white people aren't *automatically* trash.
Eh. Awkward thread title aside, it's interesting to come up with more rural flavored characters that aren't necessarily derogatory stereotypes, such as a cowboy monk or a 'High Plains Inquisitor' blowing into town all trenchcoat a-flapping and six-guns a-shooting.
With the big hat, Imrijka already has a bit of 'High Plains Inquisitor' to her look. Swap out her weapon choices for a pistol and maybe a whip or lasso, tone down the color palette to leathery browns or blacks, and add some theme music when she rolls into town, and she'd be good to go!
"Cold as ice, hard as stone, as she walks into the room..."
The funny thing about "white trash," as far as racial slurs go, is that it's one of the few ones that was invented by members of said ethnicity to describe other members of said ethnicity.
Of course, if we want to get technical, the term is "poor white trash." Maybe someone should flag the thread and get a title change? Oh, btw, that song about fighting at the waffle house? It's terrible.
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This thread is a veritable treasure trove of double standards in the field of racial slurs and what unprotected groups are acceptable to slander in modern culture.
Congratulations to the OP for coming up with it, and the Paizo mods for considering it all in good fun.
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As a proud member of the Poor White Trash (New England Swamp Yankee Division), I've always thought PWT was more of a classist slur than a racial one.
Trust me, the lack of love for Roadhouse is far, far more offensive.
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Congratulations on proving his point, Vamp. The fact that you're more insulted by people not having seen a movie than the casual flinging about of slurs says quite a lot.
Yeah. It's like when I walked out of that "something or other" survivor group because nobody there had seen Norbit.
Here's a crazy question: Has anyone flagged this thread? I mean, I haven't, because I don't flag shiznit. (Except that one time I posted details about Carrion Crown in a FAWTL thread.)
As a proud member of the Poor White Trash (New England Swamp Yankee Division), I've always thought PWT was more of a classist slur than a racial one.
... and thus the designation "white" in the slur...
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...yes, the slaveowners needed a handy term to refer to the poor that weren't their chattel...
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As a young child I was frequently called "poor white trash". I grew up in a trailer park in rural Louisiana. My family and our cousins hunted the local woods for small game to provide enough food. We grew our own vegetables on a small farm and sold the excess on a roadside stand for whatever we could get. I didn't own a new pair of pants until I was in high school, everything I owned was a hand-me-down from my older brothers or cousins.
I can tell you from direct personal experience that my father had no greater shame in his life than being called "poor white trash". His experience in having grown up and lived that way led him to eventually completing law school. I was the first person in our family history to enter college. (My father went to college AFTER I did, having completed what he considered his obligation to provide a home for me until I moved out.)
"Poor white trash" is a vile and insulting racial AND class slur.
And it is, as I said, quite interesting to me that it is not even challenged by the forum mods when used openly and in its most negative stereotypical sense on these forums.
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Here's a crazy question: Has anyone flagged this thread? I mean, I haven't, because I don't flag shiznit. (Except that one time I posted details about Carrion Crown in a FAWTL thread.)
Yes, I flagged it as racist/offensive back when the thread was started.
I understand what the OP is asking, but there was no reason to use terminology that is so laden with racial intolerance. Like all racial slurs, this one has a lot of history and has been used in a lot of different ways, and many of them are ugly.
Yes, I flagged it as racist/offensive back when the thread was started.
Here's a crazy question: Has anyone flagged this thread? I mean, I haven't, because I don't flag shiznit. (Except that one time I posted details about Carrion Crown in a FAWTL thread.)
I avoided the thread like the plague for a while just because I figured the name would lead to a flame war - surprised me on that - and actually only got in due to a misclick, but yes I have flagged it as well.
Just fwiw, "redneck" has a similar vile history. The etymology of the term is very similar to "poor white trash". The term grew from the observation that poor rural white folk tended to have red necks from working in fields all day.
But again, no worries with using that term either. All in good fun.
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I think the main difference between them is that Redneck has had sort of a reclamation effort from the people it once targeted and is now a term they wear willingly - see Jeff Foxworthy et.al.
Not so much with the other.
...yes, the slaveowners needed a handy term to refer to the poor that weren't their chattel...
You clearly don't understand what the term implied and how it was used, and I don't feel like trying to educate you.
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Orthos and CH:
Fair enough. As I'm sure we all know, it's impossible to tell whether a thread has been flagged or not.
Anyways, yes, obviously "white trash" is a vile slur. I still find it difficult to consider it racist in its usual usage, because it's usually (although not always) used by upper-class whites to describe lower-class whites.
Funny story, though:
Last winter, I lost control of my vehicle in a snowstorm on the way to work and smashed up my front end. Bad. Had it replaced, but now my car was two different colors (actually, three, but that's another story). I went over my parents' house and my father said "Well, you better be careful driving around smoking that stuff, because the cops are liable to pull you over for being white trash." And I looked at the two vehicles and two campers rotting on their property and said, "But, Dad, we are white trash." He got really upset, but I later ran into the guy who worked on my car and relayed the story and he said "F%$%in' a right! And proud of it!"
But, I agree. PWT is pretty vile and I am surprised the mods haven't shut it down.
I think the main difference between them is that Redneck has had sort of a reclamation effort from the people it once targeted and is now a term they wear willingly - see Jeff Foxworthy et.al.
Not so much with the other.
True to a point. You could say the same about almost all racial slurs, when used by the groups once targeted by them.
As with all such terms, it is completely different when used by members of the group compared to being used as a term targeting the group by outsiders.
Just fwiw, "redneck" has a similar vile history. The etymology of the term is very similar to "poor white trash". The term grew from the observation that poor rural white folk tended to have red necks from working in fields all day.
But again, no worries with using that term either. All in good fun.
According to many sources, "redneck" comes from the red kerchiefs that striking Appalachian miners used to wear.
EDIT: Hmm, wikipedia's got both derivations.
...yes, the slaveowners needed a handy term to refer to the poor that weren't their chattel...You clearly don't understand what the term implied and how it was used, and I don't feel like trying to educate you.
Bullshiznit. I understand quite well what the term implied and how it was used.