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Okay...quick rundown...because this was an issue for my first character as well since I was given quite a bit of the wrong info...and telling somebody who is already confused to go read something ain't exactly the most helpful of advice.
1) If you play a pre gen, you can apply the chronicle sheet at the level of the pre-gen in full effect (so level 1 pregen at 1, 4 at 4 and 7 at 7) OR take 500 gold, leave the rest of the chronicle sheet in tact and apply to a level 1 character.
2) As of now, if a player plays up with their character, they keep the gold of that tier. If they play up with a pre-gen and live, they can apply that gold at the level of the pre-gen or take the 500 gold for level 1 character (which generally speaking is a bad idea).
3) If the credit from the con is GM credits, you apply 1-2 tier reward for 1-2 and for level 3, if your doing a 1-5, you take the 1-2 reward, 3-4 in the 1-7 or 3-7 adventurers. GM dead levels always apply down. If they are all pre-gen credits, your gonna have to split them between multiple characters and you may need a VO's help in that...or if some of those are higher level pre-gens, you may wanna just have them banked.
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One correction to this:
1) If you play a pre gen, you can apply the chronicle sheet at the level of the pre-gen in full effect (so level 1 pregen at 1, 4 at 4 and 7 at 7) OR take 500 gold, leave the rest of the chronicle sheet in tact and apply to a level 1 character.
1) If you play a pre gen, you can apply the chronicle sheet at the level of the pre-gen in full effect (so level 1 pregen at 1, 4 at 4 and 7 at 7) OR take 500 gold, leave the rest of the chronicle sheet in tact and apply to a brand new character.
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YKCat: roll4initiative's advice is good; take a look at the Guide to Organised Play, in particular the section 'Getting Started' on pages 5-6, and Step 5 on page 38 (page references correct for v4.3 of the Guide).
Basically you can apply ONE chronicle from playing a pregen to a new 1st level PC, whether it's a chronicle from playing a 1st-level pregen, or from a higher level pregen with the wealth reduced to 500gp. There's no provision for applying multiple such 'pregen chronicles' to the same new PC, especially if they've been earned at 4th or 7th level; they should be held, then applied when the PC reaches that level through gaining XP.
It might help if you posted a list of your PC's chronicles, including if they were earned by playing a pregen (and what level pregen) or by GM credit. Then we can unpick what's right and what isn't...
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Thank you Cold Napalm for your understanding.
To confirm for my player, he played Quest for Perfection 1, he has a level 1 character, played up to 5th due to other characters levels being played and a vote by the players. He will get the 4-5 sub-tier level money but he will have to get his character to 4th level to get the XP and the prestige ?
To confirm for me, Kaede is illegal and I have no recourse as the chronicle sheets have been 'used' for a particular character number ?
No, he gets EVERYTHING. Gold, prestige, xp. He's rocking a good start with that survival.
Umm if you were using pre-gen credits...yeah most likely illegal. What level pre-gens did you use and have you played Kaede in a game yet after using the pre-gens? There maybe a way to do a chronicle sheet shuffle to make it okay...if not, all is not lost as your local VO can help you get the chronicles sheets split up and sorted.
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To confirm for my player, he played Quest for Perfection 1, he has a level 1 character, played up to 5th due to other characters levels being played and a vote by the players. He will get the 4-5 sub-tier level money but he will have to get his character to 4th level to get the XP and the prestige ?No, he gets EVERYTHING. Gold, prestige, xp. He's rocking a good start with that survival.
Correct. If he played his PC, he gets the full reward on the chronicle immediately for the subtier he played at; there's no waiting to apply credit or anything like that.
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To confirm for me, Kaede is illegal and I have no recourse as the chronicle sheets have been 'used' for a particular character number?Umm if you were using pre-gen credits...yeah most likely illegal. What level pre-gens did you use and have you played Kaede in a game yet after using the pre-gens? There maybe a way to do a chronicle sheet shuffle to make it okay...if not, all is not lost as your local VO can help you get the chronicles sheets split up and sorted.
Yeah, if you post some more detailed info here on what you've done we may be able to offer advice, but contacting your nearest VO is probably the best bet. Bear in mind that many of them are at PaizoCon for the weekend.
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Ok, here goes, hopefully it helps.
You played a lvl. 1 pregen for 7 scenarios. Then you take it to your VC or VL and ask him to split those up between 3 characters. Make the 3 different characters and let them work it out. They'll be sure to help.
If you have 3 lvl. 1 pregen chronicles and 3 level 4 pregen chronicles, you can apply all 6 to the same character. But your PC is still ONLY lvl. 2. When your PC hits lvl. 4, you will apply all 3 lvl. 4 pregen chronicles and automatically jump to lvl. 5.
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Cool thanks all, my player will be SO happy.
With Kaede she did
Gad Con
3-15 Haunting of Hinojai Pre Gen
14 Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch Pre Gen
Special Master of the Fallen Fortress Pre Gen
3-06 Song of the Sea Witch Pre Gen
4-20 Words of the Ancients Pre GenOutside of GadCon
4-21 Way of the Kirin Kaede
23 Tide of Morning KaedeAgain thank you Cold, Paz and Eric seems I have it down now !!
So in order:
Haunting of Hinojai: You can change this one to 500 gp, and apply it as your first chronicle on Kaede at level 1.
Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch: Depends on the level of the pregen you played. If you played with a level 1 pregen, then you can get full credit for playing it immediately. If you played a level 4 or 7 pregen at a higher subtier, then you have to wait until you reach level 4 or 7, and apply the credit to Kaede at that time.
Master of the Fallen Fortress: This one gets applied to Kaede immediately, since it's a level 1 adventure.
Song of the Sea Witch and Words of the Ancients: You must have played with either a level 4 or 7 pregens in these. Thus, you put the chronicle aside and get full credit for it once Kaede reaches the level of the pregen you played.
Way of the Kirin: Kaede wasn't high enough level to play this one yet, so this is technically illegal. Not sure how to handle that one.
Tide of Morning: You get full credit immediately for playing this one, regardless of which subtier you played.
So Kaede should already have 500 gp and 1 xp from Haunting of Hinojai, and full credit for Master of the Fallen Fortress and Tide of Morning. Also, you may or may not have full credit already for The Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch, depending on what level pregen you played in that one. That's either 3 or 4 xp so far, which puts you at level 2.
The others should be put aside until your character reaches the appropriate level, and then you can apply those chronicles to him. Again, I'm not sure how to handle Way of the Kirin, since you played it illegally.
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Gad Con
3-15 Haunting of Hinojai Pre Gen
14 Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch Pre Gen
Special Master of the Fallen Fortress Pre Gen
3-06 Song of the Sea Witch Pre Gen
4-20 Words of the Ancients Pre GenOutside of GadCon
4-21 Way of the Kirin Kaede
23 Tide of Morning Kaede
It would help to know the pregen levels played, as it would clarify things (a few of the ifs/thens in Fromper's post above).
Is that the order they were played in? Because even putting aside the pregen credit confusion, Way of the Kirin would've been played at 2nd level (5 XP) and therefore wouldn't be PFS-legal anyway.
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Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch: Depends on the level of the pregen you played. If you played with a level 1 pregen, then you can get full credit for playing it immediately. If you played a level 4 or 7 pregen at a higher subtier, then you have to wait until you reach level 4 or 7, and apply the credit to Kaede at that time.Incorrect; playing a level one pregen has the same pointless "newly created" restriction as bumping down a higher level chronicle does.
If you play a 1st-level pregenerated character, you can apply the credit for her first adventure to a newly created character of your very own.
1st level rebuild rules already cover this. He rebuilt his character into one that happens to look EXACTLY like a level 1 pregen, including the name, background story, picture, etc. So he was playing his character at level 1, then rebuilt it.
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Haunting of Hinojai lvl. 5-9. He played a lvl. 7 pregen. That means he applies this credit when his PC becomes lvl. 7, for full exp and gold, all legal and good, no lvl. 1 application.)
14 Many Fortunes of Grandmaster Torch lvl. 1-7 (What tier does it say on your sheet, if its 1-2, it applies to lvl. 1, if its 3-4, it gets applied later to a lvl. 4, if its 6-7, you apply it at lvl. 7)
Special Master of the Fallen Fortress lvl. 1 (Applies to lvl. 1)
3-06 Song of the Sea Witch lvl. 3-7 (Applied at either lvl. 4 or lvl. 7, look at the tier, same as above)
4-20 Words of the Ancients lvl. 7-11 (Applied at lvl. 7 for full exp and gp)
Outside of GadCon
4-21 Way of the Kirin Kaede lvl. 3-7 (Applied to lvl. 4 as a pregen)
23 Tide of Morning Kaede lvl. 1-5 (Applied leagaly at lvl. 1-5)
So, you have a PC who did a few adventures at lvl. 1 and a boat load of exp you'll be applying at lvl. 4 and at lvl. 7, due to playing Pre Gens.