Seducer from Advanced Race Guide

[KonLesh]

I asked this question over in the ask James Jacob thread and he seemed to be a bit confused so he suggested I come here and ask it. Here is what I asked and the answer that James gave. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

James Jacobs wrote:

KonLesh wrote:

I have no idea where to ask this and even though I found the question being asked, I can never find an answer. Even just directing me to the right place to ask this would be a great benefit if you don't know the answer.

In the Advance Race Guide, I have a question about seducer. Here it is for ease:

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Seducer (2 RP)
Prerequisites: The race has at least a +2 racial bonus to Charisma.
Benefit: Members of this race add +1 to the saving throw DCs for their spells and spell-like abilities of the enchantment school. In addition, members of this race with a Wisdom score of 15 or higher gain the following spell-like ability (the caster level is equal to the user's character level):

1/day—charm person
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Why do you need 15 Wisdom to have charm person? Shouldn't this be Charisma, especially since you need a +2 racial bonus to charisma to even take this trait for a race.

I would have made it Charisma, since spell-like abilities should ALWAYS be associated with Charisma. Further, seduction is more a Charisma thing than Wisdom thing. Not sure why they chose Wisdom; makes no sense to me, but I wasn't involved in that book's creation so who knows what I might be missing? That said, there are certainly errors waiting for errata in that book (aasimar/tiefling/other planetouched ages come to mind!). Post the question in the rules fourms and FAQ it.

[Truth Seeker]

KonLesh wrote:

I asked this question over in the ask James Jacob thread and he seemed to be a bit confused so he suggested I come here and ask it. Here is what I asked and the answer that James gave. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

James Jacobs wrote:

KonLesh wrote:

I have no idea where to ask this and even though I found the question being asked, I can never find an answer. Even just directing me to the right place to ask this would be a great benefit if you don't know the answer.

In the Advance Race Guide, I have a question about seducer. Here it is for ease:

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Seducer (2 RP)
Prerequisites: The race has at least a +2 racial bonus to Charisma.
Benefit: Members of this race add +1 to the saving throw DCs for their spells and spell-like abilities of the enchantment school. In addition, members of this race with a Wisdom score of 15 or higher gain the following spell-like ability (the caster level is equal to the user's character level):

1/day—charm person
-----------------

Why do you need 15 Wisdom to have charm person? Shouldn't this be Charisma, especially since you need a +2 racial bonus to charisma to even take this trait for a race.

I would have made it Charisma, since spell-like abilities should ALWAYS be associated with Charisma. Further, seduction is more a Charisma thing than Wisdom thing. Not sure why they chose Wisdom; makes no sense to me, but I wasn't involved in that book's creation so who knows what I might be missing? That said, there are certainly errors waiting for errata in that book (aasimar/tiefling/other planetouched ages come to mind!). Post the question in the rules fourms and FAQ it.

I would like to FAQ this question as well but the status shows as "Answered in the errata" although I could not find any related answer in the FAQ and there is no official Errata published for the "Advanced Race Guide" as far as I know. Weird, no ? Did I miss something ?

[seebs]

Wait, what's wrong with the planetouched ages?

EDIT: Apparently there's a module with a plot inconsistency if tieflings live much longer than humans.

I wonder whether that would also apply to sylphs; I had actually just looked that up today for plot reasons in a PF game.

[VRMH]

Grenadier wrote:

Did I miss something ?

Then I missed it too. Though I did notice the Drow description has an optional "Seducer" racial trait that still requires Wis 15.

[Bobson]

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