Aasimar aging rules aren't consistent... Help please?


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I recently bought the Blood Of Angels player companion, and have been using it for my aasimar character. I love the book even though the flexibility in the aasimar heritages seem way OP(that's another discussion :P ).

Anyway, here is my problem. If you have read the book, it continually implies that aasimars age at the same rate as humans. It implies that they reach puberty at the same time, and how they would interact with their peers which implies that they age at the same rate. It continues to heavily suggest this throughout the book, including the fact that they tend to marry humans, as if they live about the same amount of time(as it would be difficult to marry a human if you lived triple their life span).

However, in the Advanced Race Guide, it specifically says that aasimars have a life span of over 250 years (250 yrs is when they reach venerable), and that they reach adulthood at the age of 60 years(humans reach adulthood at the age of 15). These number are on page 248 and 249

Their childhood, and the the resulting personalities, would be COMPLETELY different if they lived among humans, yet aged at a rate 4 times slower. Imagine what raising an aasimar would be like to a human; they reach adulthood by the time the parents are in their 80's. You would have to wait until they were 16 to toilet train them! Can you imagine?? When I was reading blood of Angels, I interpreted that they reach adulthood at the same rate as humans, but they just live longer, but after I checked the ARG, it made it clear they they just aged slower in all respects. There is no wiggle room. I really like making rich and detailed back stories for my characters, and it's kind of hard to figure out what a characters persona would be like with the conflicting information.
I really don't want to have to ask for a ruling for such a small detail, but it changes the character dynamic a lot...

What should I make of this?

Shadow Lodge

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Advanced Race Guide is contains open content info. Blood of Angels, however, is Golarion specific. James Jacobs has said in numerous places that aasimar and teiflings age as their human counterparts.

Silver Crusade

Yeah ARG numbers are way off the mark. Blood of Angels is correct. :)


So they age and die at the same rate as humans? Great, now I have to rewrite his whole backstory... :/
I believe you, but I'm interested to know where James stated this...


Mikaze wrote:
Yeah ARG numbers are way off the mark. Blood of Angels is correct. :)

only in Golarion.

it would logically make sense, that if an immortal being slept with a mortal, that the mortal offspring would live drastically longer. and aging 4 times slower, as per ARG is fine.


There is a bigger issue with how long it takes them to become adults, due to life milestones of significant NPCs in a few adventure paths including the first one, than there is with having their lifespans extended once they become adults. The latter doesn't have any serious problems aside from not fitting the patterns of other races and a bit of the fluff in blood of angels. In a game I was in charge of, I'd probably rule human- (or parent race-) aging to adulthood, but older ages to progress in age categories.


IQuarent wrote:

So they age and die at the same rate as humans? Great, now I have to rewrite his whole backstory... :/

I believe you, but I'm interested to know where James stated this...

It's stated a few times in various threads. I believe the plan is to put this into the official ARG errata, and to correct the table on any reprinted editions of the ARG.

That said, every individual aasimar and tiefling is a unique being. If you have a character backstory about long aging for your character, work with your GM to make an exception to the RAW. Character aging rarely comes up in actual play.


IQuarent wrote:

So they age and die at the same rate as humans? Great, now I have to rewrite his whole backstory... :/

I believe you, but I'm interested to know where James stated this...
James Jacobs wrote:

Actually...

I'm going to try to get the ARG errataed so that aasimars and tieflings reach adulthood and have starting ages equal to humans. Because beyond the two contradictions Mort pointed out above...

** spoiler omitted **

A quick glance at the other race ages listed in the ARG and all those look fine—either they're like drow or svirfneblin and have always had established ages, or they're new races who haven't had significant NPC appearances that rely heavily upon their childhood history being on a time scale equal to that of a human.

Now... I suppose I COULD say "Tieflings and aasimars age differently in Golarion," but that's super obnoxious. The rulebooks don't have a built-in campaign setting, but Golarion DOES assume you're using the rulebooks, and as such, what's in the rulebooks SHOULD match what happens in Golarion as much as possible.

Grr.

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Silver Crusade

Lumiere Dawnbringer wrote:
Mikaze wrote:
Yeah ARG numbers are way off the mark. Blood of Angels is correct. :)

only in Golarion.

it would logically make sense, that if an immortal being slept with a mortal, that the mortal offspring would live drastically longer. and aging 4 times slower, as per ARG is fine.

And most iterations of aasimar all the way back to their origins in Planescape.

Remember, aasimar aren't the immediate offspring of celestials and mortals. They're the children born generations down the line, to the point that the "planetouched gene" can skip several generations before popping up.


Other humanoid races can have Aasimar children, not just humans. It'd make more logical sense if the aging rules were from the base humanoid... example, an Aasimar of elven origin uses the elven aging rules, an Aasimar of halfling origin uses the halfling aging rules, an Aasimar of human origin uses the human aging rules.


IQuarent wrote:
So they age and die at the same rate as humans? Great, now I have to rewrite his whole backstory... :/

only in Golarion.

In more general PF they age as per ARG.


It's up to you and the GM to decide how aasimars, and more specifically, YOUR aasimar, ages.

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