LN druid --> law domain?


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Hey!

The title basically says it... a druid can get a domain with nature bond... he/she needs to be neutral on one axis, but can be NG, NE, CN or LN... could he/she get one of the alignment domains?

I would like a LN druid that has Irori as his god.

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Only certain, specified domains are allowed with the Nature Bond ability - Animal, Plant, the four elements... and I think Sun? As far as I know none of the expansion books have enlarged that number.

That being said, nothing stops your druid from worshiping Irori.


Several archetypes change what domains you can take. I'm not sure if any let you take alignment domains, though.


AFAIK, Law Domain is not an option of any Druid Archetype.
Irori also is associated with the Knowledge Domain (+Memory/Thought Sub-Domains), which is a Domain available to Urban Druids.
Ape, Bear, Boar, and Saurian Shaman (Archetypes) also allow Strength Domain (also associated with Irori).
I'm not sure what your character aims are, but Erastil would seem a compatable God (LG) who is associated with more Druid-y Domains.

But I don't believe it matters whether or not a Deity normally grants their CLERICS those Domains,
as a Druid you have access to the Domains you do independent of the specific Deity you worship,
so you should be able to pick any Domain you like that you have access to (Druid/Archetype) and still worship whatever God you want.
Clerics themselves can do this (Deity/Domain independence) via the Separatist Archetype.

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This is why I shouldn't give off-the-cuff rules counsel without my APG handy.


I would actually like him to be a bit of a philosopher and focus on the laws of nature. Pondering about atoms/elements, plato's theory of forms, evolution, reincarnation, etc... Law domain badly represents this, I fear, it is more based on juridical law.


Yeah, I don't see why choosing any normal Druid-y Domain while worshipping Irori wouldn't be a reasonable implementation of the concept. Just because Clerical worshippers of Irori dont' receive Nature-y Domains doesn't mean Irori would 'frown' on Druids using these powers, in fact it means Irori's ideals are being carried forward in even broader domains (small d). Again, not that different conceptually than Separatist Clerics. I can see why choosing Irori domains like Knowledge (especially for a 'philosopher') and Strength would be extra appropriate, but don't feel limited by that approach. It does sound like the perfect candidate for a Monk dip though.


I guess the strenght domain is an option via an archetype, and chimes well with 'survival of the fittest'... knowledge would probably be even better, but don't see an option to get it via an archetype (but haven't checked them all outy yet).

Thanks for input :)


Urban Druid (from APG) enables Knowledge Domain (and any Sub-Domains if you wish).
'Urban' may not be your focus, but the Archetype really still functions just fine as a 'Nature' focused class,
Wildshape has a level penalty, but that just means it will be useful more as 'utility' than frontline melee duty.
(although you can still do good by that route if you build for it, IMHO)
The Spontaneous Domain Casting (in addition to Domain Slot) is really nice IMHO.

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Urban Druid

While many druids keep to the wilderness, some make their way within settlements, communing with the animals and vermin who live there and speaking for the nature that runs rampant in civilization's very cradle.

Spontaneous Casting: An urban druid can channel stored spell energy into domain spells that she has not prepared ahead of time. She can “lose” a prepared spell in order to cast any domain spell of the same level or lower. This ability replaces the ability to spontaneously cast summon nature's ally spells.

Nature Bond (Ex): An urban druid may not select an animal companion. Instead, she must choose from the following domains, rather than those usually available to druids: Charm, Community, Knowledge, Nobility, Protection, Repose, Rune, or Weather.

Lorekeeper (Ex): At 2nd level, an urban druid adds Diplomacy, Knowledge (history), Knowledge (local), and Knowledge (nobility) skills to her list of class skills. She also receives a +2 bonus on these skill checks. This ability replaces a druid's woodland stride and trackless step abilities.

Resist Temptation (Ex): At 4th level, an urban druid gains a +2 bonus on saves vs. divinations and enchantments. This replaces the resist nature's lure ability.

A Thousand Faces (Su): An urban druid gains this ability at 6th level.

Wild Shape (Su): An urban druid gains this ability at 8th level, except that her effective druid level for the ability is equal to her druid level – 4.

Mental Strength (Ex): At 9th level, an urban druid gains immunity to charm and compulsion effects. This ability replaces venom immunity.

Sczarni

Rune is another domain of Irori's that the Urban Druid allows. It may be a bad fit for your concept though.


:) I found that one, indeed...

I kind of dislike the urban flavor, because i would like my character to have spent most of his time on isolated hilltops in deep philosophical thought (a bit monk-like, indeed :p). Of course 'urban' in mostly flavor, but still... And i really like wildshaping, so i had hoped on no penalty on that. And the skillbonusses etc don't really fit my concept.

I might get my DM to reflavor the eagle shaman as an owl shaman, having knowledge as a domain... but that would still mean a penalty on wildshaping...

Oh well, perhaps you can't always get what you want.

Sczarni

Honestly, if your druid is all about deep philosophical thought on the laws of nature, I'd say the Weather domain would fit right in. It's one of the ones core druids can get, and it fits with the idea of a druid who studies the natural world around him to the point where he can practically see the future in the patterns of the clouds, and can smell the omens on the wind.

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