Spellstrike Gloves and Myrmidarch


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Liberty's Edge

Do Spellstrike Gloves (UE page 239) allow the use of spells such as Slow through the ranged spellstrike ability a myrmidarch gains? Per the wording, I'm guessing no, but it seems a little odd that it wouldn't be.

On a related note, if I applied Reach Spell to Slow and used it with Spellstrike Gloves, would it count as a ranged touch for a myrmidarch?


shadowhntr7 wrote:
Do Spellstrike Gloves (UE page 239) allow the use of spells such as Slow through the ranged spellstrike ability a myrmidarch gains?

Spellstrike Gloves: "Three times per day, the gloves allow the wearer to treat a ranged magus spell as a spell with a range of “touch,” allowing him to deliver the spell with his spellstrike ability. The glove can only affect spells that normally affect one or more creatures at a range greater than “touch” (such as slow), not rays or other created effects. The altered spell only affects the creature attacked (any other targets normally allowed by the spell are lost)."

The gloves turn a ranged spell into a touch spell.

Example: Slow becomes Touch Of Slowness or whatever.

Ranged Spellstrike (Su): "At 4th level, a myrmidarch can use spellstrike to cast a single-target touch attack ranged spell and deliver it through a ranged weapon attack. Even if the spell can normally affect multiple targets, only a single missile, ray, or effect accompanies the attack. At 11th level, a myrmidarch using a multiple-target spell with this ability may deliver one ray or line of effect with each attack when using a full-attack action, up to the maximum allowed by the spell (in the case of ray effects). Any effects not used in the round the spell is cast are lost."

This lets you deliver a ranged touch spell through a ranged weapon attack.

Example: Ray of Frost delivered via crossbow.

Touch of Slowness is not a ranged spell, so it doesn't work.

shadowhntr7 wrote:
On a related note, if I applied Reach Spell to Slow and used it with Spellstrike Gloves, would it count as a ranged touch for a myrmidarch?

Reach Spell (Metamagic): You can alter a spell with a range of touch, close, or medium to increase its range to a higher range category, using the following order: touch, close, medium, and long."

Slow, modified by gloves to become touch, then affected by metamagic to become close, would result in a close range touch spell, which would qualify for ranged spellstrike.

There's some problems with that.

As a prepared spellcaster, you would have to prepare a reach slow, which would become medium range. So you would have to use a metamagic rod, which increases the casting time and requires a free hand, but even then you would have to figure out how to ensure the metamagic is applied after the effects of the glove.

And even then, the glove changing it into a touch spell doesn't necessarily change the Targets. Slow targets one creature/level, and while the glove makes it so the altered spell only affects the creature attacked, that doesn't actually change the target line, just who can be effected by it, and ranged spellstrike requires that it's single-target. (Except at level 11 when it inexplicably turns into rays and lines)

Ranged Spellstrike isn't really written very well, so it's hard to determine exactly how it works. Your best bet is to go over it with your GM, figure out how you both think it should work, then go from there.

Liberty's Edge

Unfortunately, that's what I figured. This will be for PFS, also, so no GM calls.

Maybe once I get 3rd level spells I'll grab Blindness and start my reign of terror.

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