Another brand new thread complaining about thread moderation? Really?
What is this, beat up on Chris week? I'm surprised that thread didn't get locked-down sooner actually.
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You can thank Chris Lambertz that there are not 5039295923 different threads about Paladin alignment, all separate, all filled with roughly the same posts made by different posters.
There is discussion and then there is the redundancy.
Before making a thread, look for the thread you are going to make.
Odds are, it just might be there already...right there...and there...and also there...and over there.
All I saw was yet another thread started to provoke page after page of strife and conflict...
Like all the other threads stared by OP's who post once and vanish like the wind.
Chris did what should have been done.
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It's worth considering that you probably never saw the actual post that got the thread closed.
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When we see a thread that's primed to turn into a useless flamewar we lock it. Chris has a better sense of that than most people I've met, and generally has a lighter hand than a lot of forum moderators I've worked with. If you have an issue with a moderation decision, ping the moderator via the private message system.
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I posted in that thread, and to be fair, there probably wasn't much more to say on either topic (the OPs or the one that it became) anyway. I don't think it's unfair to say let's call it a day, though if I was one of the last posters delving further into something, I'll admit I'd be a little miffed - but I'd get over it.
When you're playing in a game, the GM has the final word on a tough call where the rules are grey; the same thing applies here - just accept and move on to the next post. There's more fun to be had.
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When you're playing in a game, the GM has the final word on a tough call where the rules are grey; the same thing applies here - just accept and move on to the next post. There's more fun to be had.
This is a really great way of looking at it.
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When you're playing in a game, the GM has the final word on a tough call where the rules are grey; the same thing applies here - just accept and move on to the next post. There's more fun to be had.
Oh God don't start a arguement about GM authority here. ;)
I'm naked under all these clothes.
'Nuff said.
Given the direction that thread took I am not surprised the OP didn't reappear......
Paizo boards are among the most mature and well spoken boards in the whole game industry but here too exists a tendency to put up redundant threads and veer threads into off topics.
If that happens closing a thread is simply an issue of basic "board hygiene".
So move on folks, nothing to see here.
In fact, on most message boards I have seen, there would be huge reminders everywhere to look for older threads with the same topic before creating a new one, and if two similar threads got created one would be closed immediately, with a link to the older one.
I think the attitude displayed here is a whole lot nicer, though linking to the "approved" or "original" thread would be nice. (A lot of work though).
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Holy crap I'm glad I missed that thread. Far as I can see, only problem with it is it wasn't locked soon enough.
Also, if a moderator says, "Start a new thread" or "look to discuss this in an existing on topic thread" and your (essential) response is "But I want to keep derailing this one!" Then frankly? Get over yourself. How hard is it to do as the mod asked?
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Also, if a moderator says, "Start a new thread" or "look to discuss this in an existing on topic thread" and your (essential) response is "But I want to keep derailing this one!" Then frankly? Get over yourself. How hard is it to do as the mod asked?
Considering that conversations tend to ebb, flow, and shift in normal life, I think the moderation has been a bit more strident about staying on topic and starting tangent threads than it needs to be. That said, it is Paizo's board to moderate as they see fit. I just think the hand has been a bit heavier lately and often without necessity.
It was a bad decision, but it's their decision.
Considering that conversations tend to ebb, flow, and shift in normal life, I think the moderation has been a bit more strident about staying on topic and starting tangent threads than it needs to be. That said, it is Paizo's board to moderate as they see fit. I just think the hand has been a bit heavier lately and often without necessity.
Also, if a moderator says, "Start a new thread" or "look to discuss this in an existing on topic thread" and your (essential) response is "But I want to keep derailing this one!" Then frankly? Get over yourself. How hard is it to do as the mod asked?
Paizo is one of the more lenient places I've seen in terms of moderation, and any tighter pull on the reins they perform is a welcome change in my opinion. While topics shift about naturally, I've only seen them delete posts or lock a thread when there were intentional derailing tactics (i.e., silencing tactics) and flame-warring far beyond a normal, civil flow of conversation. I have yet to see Paizo do anything to a thread that veers about in topic as long as it remains somewhat related to the thread and people remaining civil, and I doubt they ever would.
I do not agree with everything Paizo does by a long shot, but IMO they were dead on here and I am glad they are putting the kibosh on extreme flamewar/derailing tactics like this.
And again, if they say, "take it to another thread," then take it to another freaking thread. How hard is that? The mods can't be accused of silencing the posters when they are clearly and obviously invited to carry on the conversation in a more appropriate space.
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As someone who is an Admin and a Moderator on several other boards I have to say I think it is funny how folks here think this forum moderation is "hard" or "heavy handed" at all. Not only is the moderation here some of the best I have seen, it is wonderful they even allow you to disagree with them or say things negative regarding their products or services. One forum I know of would have banned someone for even starting this thread.
Just my .02
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Holy crap I'm glad I missed that thread. Far as I can see, only problem with it is it wasn't locked soon enough.
Also, if a moderator says, "Start a new thread" or "look to discuss this in an existing on topic thread" and your (essential) response is "But I want to keep derailing this one!" Then frankly? Get over yourself. How hard is it to do as the mod asked?
Dude, so am I! I probably would have had a conniption... :-/
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PS: Ms. Price, maybe I'm doin'itwrong, or possibly was suffering a bug, but the couple of times I've clicked on a mod with an eye towards PMming, I've gotten profiles with no PM option. Not sure what to do 'bout that...
Click on the name of the person you want to PM.
It will take you to their profile.
Under their name, you'll see a line of smaller text that has their job title (if applicable), PFS membership, etc.
Under *that* line, there will be a line in blue that says "Send this person a private message. Add to Address Book."
Click on "Send this person a private message." Not everyone's profile will have it, because you can opt out of the private messaging system.
It's worth considering that you probably never saw the actual post that got the thread closed.Everybody else... geez. "...this instance is disappointing."
Not heavy-handed, not hard, not bad (or any of the other things that got sorta stuffed in my mouth). Just disappointing.
To be fair, you used the word "ridiculous" in the thread title. If the thread was called This is a little disappointing. [Re: locked "how to deal with selfish player thread."] the tone in here might be different. Words matter.
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PS: Ms. Price, maybe I'm doin'itwrong, or possibly was suffering a bug, but the couple of times I've clicked on a mod with an eye towards PMming, I've gotten profiles with no PM option. Not sure what to do 'bout that...Click on the name of the person you want to PM.
It will take you to their profile.
Under their name, you'll see a line of smaller text that has their job title (if applicable), PFS membership, etc.
Under *that* line, there will be a line in blue that says "Send this person a private message. Add to Address Book."
Click on "Send this person a private message." Not everyone's profile will have it, because you can opt out of the private messaging system.
I was FINALLY able to find the little blue private message link! Also, I noticed that mine was turned off...I don't know if I had chosen that upon first creating my account, or if it is default, but if a lot of people have it turned off, this could explain the confusion.
Thanks, Jessica! I thought I was seriously missing something! :)