Cursed into a Hippopotamus, need help


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So I thought it might be interesting to teach my character a lesson in humility. She just got done show boating as a flying huge behemoth Hippo who grapped and pinned a lawful stupid General flying on a Pegasus then pile drove his head into the ground from 120feet in the air.

I'm thinking to teach her a lesson the Patron has cursed her into the form of an anthropomorphic Hippo along with stripping away her class abilities like spellcasting.

Question is what's the best way to go about designing a cursed form for her to play with.

A couple of ideas so far.

Use ARG and create a customer Monsterous creature then apply some non caster class levels to make it work
Use the Hippopotamus from Bestiary and refluff it as anthropomorphic adding classes or hit die to bring it up to the party level
Use the mechanics of the Eidolon rules to create a Hippo like creature, no attached summoner so it would function as a monsterous humanoid.

Advice please ?


I had to reread that like... 3 times to make sure that was real. I like the second one best. If you make it a magical beast it might not be that bad. You might want to peak at the anthropomorphic animal spell.

Grand Lodge

Why?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Why?

Why not?

Grand Lodge

Just turn them into a toad.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Just turn them into a toad.

I think its supposed to invoke irony and relate to the person's showboating. If they were all about their own beauty or somehow related to toads then it would make sense to be a toad. This is someone who went out of their way to be a hippo.

I should also say be sure the player is okay with this and there is a way out of it if they you know, decide being a hippo is insane. Story can be good, but bad feelings are always bad.

Grand Lodge

What is the lesson being taught?

Is this a fitting punishment?

How does this improve the fun of all involved?

Is this some sort passive-aggressive battle between DM and Player?

What exactly is the infraction, for which the PC is being punished for?


Would they be susceptible to this feat?

(yes, that is a real feat, published by Wizards of the Coast in the 3.5 days)


Doomed Hero wrote:
this feat?

wat

Edit: Though perhaps more "wat" worthy is the disclaimer from that site, which I'd never bothered to read before now.

Disclaimer wrote:

If you, by any chance, wonder on a page from a rulebook you do not OWN (the source material is always referred both in url and in page contents), please, leave that page, buy the book and then return.

Pffftthahahahaha


I love that feat! a commoner can easily be killed by a hippo bite. Though its unlikely they ever fought one in one on one combat, won, and went on to level 3...

Sandstorm was weird. It also had a cactus golem thing and exploding cactus. The books for climates were always a little... trippy I thought.

Getting the feats bonuses isn't nearly the same as being turned into a hippo though I don't think, but to be fair I've never heard of someone being turned into a hippo as part of a game.


blackbloodtroll wrote:

Is this some sort passive-aggressive battle between DM and Player?

No this is a character I'm currently playing that I've decided for RP reasons has stretched the limit of what her Patron will put up with and thus needs a good Cursing to set her straight.

I assume that addresses most of your concerns about it ?

If it makes a difference my character is easily the most powerful/optimised in the group so if anything it will benefit the group overall


Doomed Hero wrote:

Would they be susceptible to this feat?

(yes, that is a real feat, published by Wizards of the Coast in the 3.5 days)

hah love it, YES totally susceptible to that feat :D

Sczarni

The *real* question is: how would it be a curse?


Trinite wrote:
The *real* question is: how would it be a curse?

Most people don't look forward to being turned into a hippo and being stripped of the ultimate power that is spellcasting, particularly not if its your god saying "Cut it out!"

Grand Lodge

Why not use the Baleful Polymorph as a base, and still go toad, but flavor as a tiny Hippo?

This destroys their usefulness in combat, and for spellcasting, whilst keeping with the Hippo flavor.


Erm... that would effectively kill off the player. I'm not sure if thats what is wanted. All of the options create a character who is still viable, if a little... wierd.

Grand Lodge

No, either way is basically death.

Death is easier to deal with actually.


Trinite wrote:
The *real* question is: how would it be a curse?

It's an RP Curse

this characters whole shtiqk is combining spells with polymorph to get ULTIMATE POWER etc etc

The Curse is stripping her of the spells and leaving her in a body that not her own with no way of poly morphing her way out of it.

I'm not looking to cripple the character into irrelevance it still needs to be able to contribute to the group

Think of it as going from Godly Archmage to overweight brawler ;)


If everyones okay with it I'd say its cool. Althought strange... I can't get over the fact its strange.

Death and being a hippo are very different. Hippos are pretty dangerous, that bite attack is crazy powerful. Speaking of which, were-hippo is a thing I think.


MrSin wrote:

If everyones okay with it I'd say its cool. Althought strange... I can't get over the fact its strange.

Death and being a hippo are very different. Hippos are pretty dangerous, that bite attack is crazy powerful. Speaking of which, were-hippo is a thing I think.

Strange is where the fun is at ;)

I think you thinking of the Lycanthrope template which is another option combined with Hippo would make it a CR8 base creature

In a level 10 group that would translate to Were-Hippo with 5 class levels

Hrmm perhaps the Animal Lord template might be a good place to start


Most of my groups aren't fun.

Thats horrifying... now give it vital strike and improved natural attack. Who needs fist when you can bite.

Edit: if your a were-hippo I'd imagine spreading it would be hard. Those things have a bite you don't always survive...


I would look at the lycanthrope rules for creating the hybrid form and use that, minus the shapechanger subtype, the DR probably, and maybe the wisdom boost, for the idea of how to stat the humanoid hippo form.


As far as they mechanics go I'm unsure about how much of a class rebuild I should perform for the Curses duration

The options here are simply leave as the current Barb/Witch/EK and strip out the Spell casting and hexes dump on the modifed were-hippo template

or dump the witch/EK and rebuild as a straight Barbarian Were-Hippo

or just strip it all out and add non-heroic levels of warrior to top it up


Straight Barbarian were-hippo is my vote. So long as you don't overshadow anyone to the point they stop having fun. If it looks like that I'd say warrior.

Sczarni

Phasics wrote:
Trinite wrote:
The *real* question is: how would it be a curse?

It's an RP Curse

this characters whole shtiqk is combining spells with polymorph to get ULTIMATE POWER etc etc

The Curse is stripping her of the spells and leaving her in a body that not her own with no way of poly morphing her way out of it.

I'm not looking to cripple the character into irrelevance it still needs to be able to contribute to the group

Think of it as going from Godly Archmage to overweight brawler ;)

If I were turned into a hippo, I'd spend my days lounging in the river, eating plants, and biting the occasional crocodile in half for fun. And spending time with the lady hippos, of course.

Sounds like a pretty nice life to me!


MrSin wrote:
Straight Barbarian were-hippo is my vote. So long as you don't overshadow anyone to the point they stop having fun. If it looks like that I'd say warrior.

Aye I'm very wary of sliding from one optimised build into another, was perhaps thinking savage fighter instead and use the feats for utility grapple/overrun/sunder etc


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Trinite wrote:


If I were turned into a hippo, I'd spend my days lounging in the river, eating plants, and biting the occasional crocodile in half for fun. And spending time with the lady hippos, of course.

Sounds like a pretty nice life to me!

Hey, don't forget spinning your tail while you spray out liquid poop to mark your territory and attract the aforementioned lady hippos, you suave, debonair fellow of a hippo, you.


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how bout the Giff from Spelljammer?? They are "hippo men"


Giff are awesome. Upperclass brittish navel officer hippos in space. It's like a Muppet Show sketch.

If a Giff was bitten by a were-hippo (and survived), what would happen?


Kinda reminds me of the Thraddash from Starcontrol 2

Sczarni

Let me just make sure I understand this.

You, the player, have decided that you want to forfeit your spellcasting and all your class abilities, plus the ability to speak, fit through doors, or do anything requiring thumbs. This is not being forced on you by your GM, nor has your GM expressed any disapproval of your recent actions, but you feel it is a natural development in your character's story and you want to play it out. Correct?

First of all, what class were you when this happened? I'm guessing either druid or witch.

Second, do the rest of the people at your table know about this decision? Your fellow players may not be happy to find out that their primary spellcaster is now good for little more than bull rushing and Swim checks, and if you really have been "show boating", they may not be happy with you to begin with. Your GM may also have issues with this, or advice on how best to handle it.

Third, is this a permanent curse or merely a lesson your character has to learn? If you spent one session perma-hippo'd, that'd be one thing. Maybe a side quest to regain your polymorph powers, or to demonstrate that you have learned humility and atone? But if you plan to spend the rest of the campaign rolling in the mud, then unless one of your friends is interested in trying out mounted combat (and you're willing to wear a saddle) then this is a funny but bad idea.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoWfambAi6A

I say take levels in bard.


Silent Saturn wrote:

Let me just make sure I understand this.

You, the player, have decided that you want to forfeit your spellcasting and all your class abilities, plus the ability to speak, fit through doors, or do anything requiring thumbs. This is not being forced on you by your GM, nor has your GM expressed any disapproval of your recent actions, but you feel it is a natural development in your character's story and you want to play it out. Correct?

First of all, what class were you when this happened? I'm guessing either druid or witch.

Second, do the rest of the people at your table know about this decision? Your fellow players may not be happy to find out that their primary spellcaster is now good for little more than bull rushing and Swim checks, and if you really have been "show boating", they may not be happy with you to begin with. Your GM may also have issues with this, or advice on how best to handle it.

Third, is this a permanent curse or merely a lesson your character has to learn? If you spent one session perma-hippo'd, that'd be one thing. Maybe a side quest to regain your polymorph powers, or to demonstrate that you have learned humility and atone? But if you plan to spend the rest of the campaign rolling in the mud, then unless one of your friends is interested in trying out mounted combat (and you're willing to wear a saddle) then this is a funny but bad idea.

Anthropomorphic Hippo (i.e. Human/Hippo hybrid can speak has thumbs etc)

First: Barb/Witch/Eldrich Knight
Second: No, we have a full Wizard as well
Thrid: Temp curse , and depending how it goes may regain some all powers.


As a temporary curse, you become a giff without spells/hexes and just deal with it as-is until you resolve the Patron's curse. No rebuilding as the curse is temporary. As an EK you have decentish oomph already.


Turin the Mad wrote:
As a temporary curse, you become a giff without spells/hexes and just deal with it as-is until you resolve the Patron's curse. No rebuilding as the curse is temporary. As an EK you have decentish oomph already.

There's not much EK in there only 3 levels

Barb 1/ Witch 6/ EK 3

Silver Crusade

You win the award for the best thread title of the week.

Congratulations.


FallofCamelot wrote:

You win the award for the best thread title of the week.

Congratulations.

I'm afraid that distinction must go to "Were-Sperm Whale".

Silver Crusade

Rynjin wrote:
FallofCamelot wrote:

You win the award for the best thread title of the week.

Congratulations.

I'm afraid that distinction must go to "Were-Sperm Whale".

Hmm... yeah there's some definite competition there.


... my brain... it hurts...

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