after browsing this topic http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2o1pp?Looking-for-equivalent-to-35-Lasher-whip- PRC#1 ive still having issues. I have a pc that will be starting as a lvl 3 pc and isnt sure on race but has real solid stats. He has taking to this whipping (with scorpion whip) and doing aoos and some maneuvering. He doesnt wanna purely focus on combat maneuvers since they tend to lose luster later on (esp for non full non str based classes). Im thinking hes almost forced to take weapon finesse at 1 since he cant take weapon focus (whip) and cant start the whip mastery feats. Combat reflexes is worthless since whips dont threaten and power attack also needs BAB 1.
It would be
1: Weapon Finesse
3: Weapon Focus (Whip)
4: Whip Mastery
If hes human he gets a bonus feat but i dont know the good bard feats.
Any help for us (specifically him) would be appreciated,
Arcane Strike and Combat Reflexes are pretty good choices.
I'm not sure about going the finesse route. Simply using Str gives higher damage and saves a feat.
There is a trait that increases your damage with whip by +1, but I don't think it's worth it.
Also, Improved Whip Mastery is really good, bu you can safel ignore Greater Whip Mastery.
Are you sure you want to finesse the whip?
You'll be having enough problems doing decent damage as a strenght based whip user , if you're finessing it'll be that much harder.
You will probably want to pick up arcane strike along the line.It isn't terribly usefull at level one but if you have your feats after that already planned you might as well take it then.
another question. Do whips get Str and a half?
Nope
who ninja'd Weapon finesse give him +hit.
His stat array is:
13
17
17
17
11
18
without racials.
(omg odd numbers everwhere)
He rolled them in front of me.
Reflexes wont be useful until the whip threatens (lvl 7ish?)
who ninja'd Weapon finesse give him +hit.
His stat array is:13
17
17
17
11
18without racials.
(omg odd numbers everwhere)
He rolled them in front of me.Reflexes wont be useful until the whip threatens (lvl 7ish?)
Oh, I thought he was still building his character.
Well, since he already has his atributes, I believe Weapon Finesse and Arcane Strike are the best choices.
After Improved Whip Mastery, Combat Reflexes and Lunge should be really good.
With those stats definitely strenght based.Weapon finesse would be a wasted feat.I would understand if you want the dex bonus to AC, but with those stats you can have that and the damage and save the feat.
I would say
18+2STR
17DEX
17CON
11WIS
17CHA
13INT
I would start using a Longsword until you have Whip Master.
If you want to do pure damage then Whips are not the place to go. I know you said you don't want to do combat manuevers, but that really is the best use of them. Even without the feats you can get a bonus, and can do so at a distance ergo not provoking.