Who would you consider the greatest villain in PFS scenarios?

[baron arem heshvaun]

Hi gang.

I have to figure out some tie ins and backstory for a new group so that has led me to this question -

As far as PFS scenarios go - who is the most memorable villains in the scenarios thus far. I am looking for unique individuals and not organizations.

Bonus points it they are alive at scenarios end and appear in more than two scenarios.

Pleas briefly state your reasons for picking the villain in question.

I have to take out a certain BBEG from is in 'Eyes of the Ten' out of the running. Grandmaster Torch, the ParaCountess, and certain four and five star GMs do not count either.

[wvpolarbear]

The Blakros Museum is pretty villainous

[Zauron13]

I think we kill all of our foes most of the time. Maybe the leaders of the Aspis or something like that. I know during one scenario it looked like <censor> was a traitor to a faction. So he/she/it was a villian for 1.5 scenarios, tops.
Maybe you could have a nemesis or rival within the Society with a player character.

A lot of people probably think Drandel Drang, the venture captain, is a heartless villian for all of the stuff he puts Pathfinders through.

[baron arem heshvaun]

wvpolarbear wrote:

The Blakros Museum is pretty villainous

I was toying with that angle for a little bit early last year for another group but went with something else.

[Paz]

This thread looks like it could become spoilerific...

Season 2:

The Spider. Gives the society the run-around for pretty much a whole year, before finally being dealt with once and for all in the year-end climax.

Season 4:

Then you see a certain signature on a letter, and realise that your previous efforts may have been in vain after all!

[Doug Miles]

Kyle Baird

Runner Up: Mark Moreland

[Netopalis]

There is a recurring villain from a three-part arc:

The Scenarios:

Among the Living, Among the Dead and Among the Gods

Also, it's looking like this season is setting up a permanent recurring villain.

Spoilers from The Blakros Matrimony and other late Season 4 scenarios.:

It's looking like Tancred Desmire will be around a lot. He's the villain in The Blakros Matrimony and The Disappeared so far.

[Dragnmoon]

Doug Miles wrote:

Kyle Baird

Runner Up: Mark Moreland

Kyle is a Wimp, I would seitch those around.. ;)

[Drogon]

baron arem heshvaun wrote:

I have to take out a certain BBEG from is in 'Eyes of the Ten' out of the running.

Why replace him? He has to be one of the best set up BBEGs ever. And with proper lead in, the players are totally blindsided. Then you get to reference things that happened throughout their careers, all while tormenting them mercilessly and making them hate him more and more. It's awesome.

[Relmer]

The Decemvirate. Doh-ho-ho.

[Feegle]

I can't remember the name, but there's an

The Devil We Know:

Aspis Consortium agent who gets away with the Macguffin at end of the fourth part. He's mostly memorable because he gets away.

[Black Powder Chocobo]

The final encounter in We Be Goblins is fairly interesting, more so for those who read up on some of the backstory in Rise of the Runelords around Sandpoint.

[Jiggy]

Drendle Dreng.

[Thamius]

Jeff Mahood wrote:

I can't remember the name, but there's

Devil We Know spoiler:

Kafar and his young aide Nefti. They were the first ones I thought of for this thread, because the plot railroad didn't allow for any way to stop them. Players who have completed all four parts are just waiting for the day they see these two again... myself included.

[Cormac O'Bron]

Min-Maxing PCs.

[Fromper]

Drogon wrote:

baron arem heshvaun wrote:

I have to take out a certain BBEG from is in 'Eyes of the Ten' out of the running.

Why replace him? He has to be one of the best set up BBEGs ever. And with proper lead in, the players are totally blindsided. Then you get to reference things that happened throughout their careers, all while tormenting them mercilessly and making them hate him more and more. It's awesome.

Yup. This was my first thought when I saw the thread title.

Agreed that I'd like to see Kafir and Nefti from The Devil We Know brought back in newer scenarios.

[Rogue Eidolon]

Netopalis wrote:

There is a recurring villain from a three-part arc:

** spoiler omitted **

Also, it's looking like this season is setting up a permanent recurring villain.

** spoiler omitted **

I would be shocked if

Season 4:

Tancred wasn't involved with Day of the Demon. And he is briefly mentioned at the end of Fortress of the Nail, which is the follow-up to The Disappeared.

[Michael Brock]

Spoiler:

Swarms or haunts, take your pick

[Michael Brock]

Rogue Eidolon wrote:

Netopalis wrote:

There is a recurring villain from a three-part arc:

** spoiler omitted **

Also, it's looking like this season is setting up a permanent recurring villain.

** spoiler omitted **

I would be shocked if ** spoiler omitted **

Spoiler:

And he is pissed that the Society killed his brother

[BigNorseWolf]

Chase scenes...

[Knuckles Jarvis]

Applesauce from Feast of Ravenmoor is obviously the most evil creature in all the lands.

[John W Johnson]

Riddywhipple is more evil than Applesauce.

[Christopher Rowe]

Ledford the halfling barbarian!

[godsDMit]

I dont even need to mention the name of the villain, but just the scenario title: The Dalsine Affair.

If you have played it, you know it will turn members of certain factions on their heads. If you havent, then you need to go play it. It's one of the best.

[baron arem heshvaun]

Doug Miles wrote:

Kyle Baird

Runner Up: Mark Moreland

I am not refuting this Doug, but as I said in the original post, 'certain four and five star GMs do not count'. Plus how would I stat up Kyle?

[baron arem heshvaun]

Michael Brock wrote:

** words of wisdom **

Spoiler:

Ok maybe not as much Haunts, but there were quite a few low level scenarios over the years where players kept asking 'is this the swarm encounter yet?'

[Mattastrophic]

Seth Gipson wrote:

I dont even need to mention the name of the villain, but just the scenario title: The Dalsine Affair.

The villain of The Dalsine Affair is arguably the most-successful villain to date. His actions in that scenario have had a greater effect on the campaign than anyone before or since.

And he was clever.

-Matt

[baron arem heshvaun]

Drogon wrote:

baron arem heshvaun wrote:

I have to take out a certain BBEG from is in 'Eyes of the Ten' out of the running.

Why replace him? He has to be one of the best set up BBEGs ever. And with proper lead in, the players are totally blindsided. Then you get to reference things that happened throughout their careers, all while tormenting them mercilessly and making them hate him more and more. It's awesome.

Quite true. But most (if not all) of the players have played through Eyes of the Ten.

Reasoning -

Spoiler:

We have a large group of players and I am trying a small experiment - basically instead of having a pool of about thirty plus players and some fifty or so PCs to draw upon, I was going to start a group of five to six players each with the same PC and we play PFS scenarios almost like an AP.

We all have several high level PCs (I have a Level 13, 11 and 11 for example) - but we need to build some from level one that will hit level four or five by Gencon. We rotate GMs and I wanted to build a off a starting point and story arc with a possible villain as a tie in.

Grandmaster Torch would work well if he was not a faction head, and since we already played Eyes of the Ten and now have Venture Captain PCs, well the sting is taken out of that scenario.

[Mark Moreland]

Mr. Miles,

I have recently taken a page out of Games Workshop's playbook and am claiming common law copyright on my name. I will be sending you a bill for the required royalty for your online publication of my intellectual property. Please remit the listed amount immediately to preclude my need to take further legal action.

Not Explosive Runes:

Also, I'm super interested in seeing which villains the community thinks are most villainous as well! Turns out I'm in the process of outlining some rather broad strokes plot points for Seasons 5 and 6 and this information could be very useful in that endeavor.

Also Not Explosive Runes:

EXPLOSIVE RUNES

Still Not Explosive Runes:

You clicked on this a third time? Really?

[Dan Luckett]

Mark...the fact that your comment 3rd one says what it does makes me curious but not dumb enough to go for the second one. I figured your second was a trap, but not the 1st or third. :P

[nosig]

greatest villain in PFS scenarios?
Time.
THe time slots are just too short!

[Nathan King 738]

Rogue Eidolon wrote:

Netopalis wrote:

There is a recurring villain from a three-part arc:

** spoiler omitted **

Also, it's looking like this season is setting up a permanent recurring villain.

** spoiler omitted **

I would be shocked if ** spoiler omitted **

I gotta say that very last line is extremely ominous :P

Favorite Villain....Hmm...

In terms of Power::

Feast of Sigils - BBEG strikes me as true, determined, villain

In terms of Back story::

Tancred Desimire. They mention him in "Storming the Diamond gate" as well as loosely throughout Season 4 as an enemy of the Paracountess.

[Mattastrophic]

RE: Mark Moreland's spoilered request:

Why The Dalsine Affair is the best scenario ever:

Chalfon really takes the trophy home here. He very cleverly exploits a weakness in the Pathfinders' network by placing them in a legal bind. As it turns out, Venture-Captain Muesello was illegally smuggling Taldan artifacts out of Taldor, and harboring cultists of Sarenrae. So Chalfon pounces on the opportunity, leading up to the beginning of the scenario.

And the Pathfinders' only option is for the PCs to break the law, subjecting themselves to legal punishment if they are caught, as well as getting the Society kicked out of Taldor. In order to save their Society, the players have to become lawbreakers! Awesome!

And on top of that, Chalfon even arranges for a feud between Baron Dalsine and Pasha Al-Jakri to boil over when the Pasha's sister is a victim of Chalfon's arranged raid, which is actually an execution of the law.

He sets them up, and he watches them fall. He's the best villain in PFS. Puppet-masters like him, who place the PC's in difficult circumstances, are what we need to see more of.

-Matt

[Kyle Baird]

Adril Hestram, for many reasons! How many Pathfinders has he sent to their death?

[Aerik Prativhssen]

Guys. Sheila Heidmarch. Come on. That chick is out to get us.

[Mark Moreland]

Mattastrophic wrote:

He sets them up, and he watches them fall. He's the best villain in PFS. Puppet-masters like him, who place the PC's in difficult circumstances, are what we need to see more of.

If that's what you like to see, then the scenario I just assigned is going to BLOW! YOUR! FREAKIN'! MIND!

[Michael Brock]

Mark Moreland wrote:

Mattastrophic wrote:

He sets them up, and he watches them fall. He's the best villain in PFS. Puppet-masters like him, who place the PC's in difficult circumstances, are what we need to see more of.

If that's what you like to see, then the scenario I just assigned is going to BLOW! YOUR! FREAKIN'! MIND!

Lol...yeah it is.....

[KestlerGunner]

Aglorn Desimire.
Ledford the Halfling Barbarian.
Haunting of Hinojai BBEG AND the apprentice.
Pretty much every NPC with a statblock in Cultist's Kiss.
Echoes Soup Nazi.

[Avatar-1]

KestlerGunner wrote:

Aglorn Desimire.

Ledford the Halfling Barbarian.
Haunting of Hinojai BBEG AND the apprentice.
Pretty much every NPC with a statblock in Cultist's Kiss.
Echoes Soup Nazi.

Lots of OH GOD in this.

[Nitro-13]

I liked Plugg from Wormwood Mutiny. But that might be Because i played him like every Sgt i hated from my time in the USAF.

[kinevon]

Seth Gipson wrote:

I dont even need to mention the name of the villain, but just the scenario title: The Dalsine Affair.

If you have played it, you know it will turn members of certain factions on their heads. If you havent, then you need to go play it. It's one of the best.

Seth Gipson, obviously, just managed to move into the ranks of great villains.

And I still think many GMs misunderstand his tactics.

[Netopalis]

If you would include modules, then I would note that Carrion Hill provides some of the most fascinating villains in all of Pathfinder.

[Mattastrophic]

Mark Moreland wrote:

If that's what you like to see, then the scenario I just assigned is going to BLOW! YOUR! FREAKIN'! MIND!

Which one's that? I will have to look out for it.

[Dragnmoon]

I have said this before and I will say it again, there are 2 NPCs that always seem to get players in trouble and I think they are secretly villains!!

Yargos Gill & Nigel Aldain!

[Thurston Hillman]

Dragnmoon wrote:

I have said this before and I will say it again, there are 2 NPCs that always seem to get players in trouble and I think they are secretly villains!!

Yargos Gill & Nigel Aldain!

No wonder Mark let me write for both of them! Damn, you've seen through their clever ploy Dragonmoon! :D

[Dragnmoon]

Thurston Hillman wrote:

Damn, you've seen through their clever ploy Dragonmoon! :D

Who?.... ;)

[Drogon]

Dragnmoon's greatest PFS villain is actually a trifecta:

PLAY! PLAY! PLAY!

If you say it he shows up to vanquish you every time...

[Dragnmoon]

Drogon wrote:

If you say it he shows up to vanquish you every time...

Sometimes in person... ;)

[kinevon]

Drogon wrote:

Dragnmoon's greatest PFS villain is actually a trifecta:

PLAY! PLAY! PLAY!

If you say it he shows up to vanquish you every time...

It's one of the Paizo Forum Summoning spells. Take 10 is the other major one. ;)

[Eric Brittain]

Aerik Prativhssen wrote:

Guys. Sheila Heidmarch. Come on. That chick is out to get us.

Agreed! Sheila is the biggest villain I have seen.