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Can the spells Fear and Cause Fear effect a creature with Plant Traits (Ex) Plants are immune to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
The reason why I'm asking is because both spells just say {fear, mind-affecting}so not sure it its a morale or compulsion.
Can the spells Fear and Cause Fear effect a creature with Plant Traits (Ex) Plants are immune to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
The reason why I'm asking is because both spells just say {fear, mind-affecting}so not sure it its a morale or compulsion.
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Can the spells Fear and Cause Fear effect a creature with Plant Traits (Ex) Plants are immune to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
The reason why I'm asking is because both spells just say {fear, mind-affecting}so not sure it its a morale or compulsion.
Actually thats very unhelpful. If it was that straight foreward why did they add this: (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
Are these all the mind-affecting sub-catigories, if so why didnt they just leave it at All Mind-Affecting Effects.
Your reading way to much into this.
don't confuse the spell name "Fear" with the subtype "fear."
Fear spell - is subtyped as fear and mind affecting
mind affecting has its own subtypes (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
creatures can be immune to whatever the designers want
plants immune to all mind effecting and every one of its subtypes (fear type is not mind effecting but the spell fear is coincidentally mind effecting)
jibberjabs - immune to charms only
diabolical estibanians - immune to moral effects only
thelemonaches - immune to phantasms, fear, compultions, morale effects, pattens.... but certainly not charm ;)
You specifically asked if the spells are of the "morale" or "compulsion" subtype. It shouldn't matter, as both are included in the parenthetical description. Fear and Cause Fear now actually fall under the "Emotion" subtype, according to Ultimate Magic. Still, though as thelemonaches explained well, they're "mind-affecting", so creatures with Plant Traits should be immune.
Can the spells Fear and Cause Fear effect a creature with Plant Traits (Ex) Plants are immune to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
The reason why I'm asking is because both spells just say {fear, mind-affecting}so not sure it its a morale or compulsion.
Actually thats very unhelpful. If it was that straight foreward why did they add this: (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
Are these all the mind-affecting sub-catigories, if so why didnt they just leave it at All Mind-Affecting Effects.
They are immune to Mind-affecting effects. That's all you need to know. The parenthetical list is simply a list of examples of those, not an exhaustive list of every mind-affecting effect.
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They are immune to Mind-affecting effects. That's all you need to know. The parenthetical list is simply a list of examples of those, not an exhaustive list of every mind-affecting effect.Can the spells Fear and Cause Fear effect a creature with Plant Traits (Ex) Plants are immune to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
The reason why I'm asking is because both spells just say {fear, mind-affecting}so not sure it its a morale or compulsion.
Actually thats very unhelpful. If it was that straight foreward why did they add this: (charms, compulsions, morale effects, patterns, and phantasms)
Are these all the mind-affecting sub-catigories, if so why didnt they just leave it at All Mind-Affecting Effects.
Then why wasnt it listed like this?
(charm, compulsion, morale effect, patterns, phantasms, etc)This is why there are questions, the way things are worded can be read differently from individual to individual.
Fear and Cause Fear have this discriptor: School necromancy [emotion, fear, mind-affecting.
These 2 discription come from the srd.
Fear: Spells with the fear descriptor create, enhance, or manipulate fear. Most fear spells are necromancy spells, though some are enchantment spells.
Emotion: Spells with this descriptor create emotions or manipulate the target’s existing emotions. Most emotion spells are enchantments, except for fear spells, which are usually necromancy. Source: Ultimate Magic.
Typically they would word it "plants are immune to charms, compulsions, morale effects, and phantasms" if they meant for it to only apply to that subset of mind-affecting effects.
(a, b, c, d, etc.) vs (a,b,c,d) The etc. is optional. The parenthesis generally mean that that what they contain is extra explanatory information, and not the important bit of the sentence.
Plants are immune to mind-affecting fear effects. Not all fear effects are mind-affecting, however.