Can a (celestial template) summoned creature hit incorporeal enemies?

[Mystically Inclined]

Greetings!

I'm a semi-new player, and I'm currently going through Carrion Crown book 1 as a player in a party of 4 characters. I'm a level 3 sorcerer (sage).

Spoiler:

In our last session, we left off with the Lopper charging strait at us. We're not maximized, though each of us are at least minimally prepared to fight ghosts and the like.

We've come across the cache of prisoner weapons, so my sorcerer has the Splatterman's spellbook, which has Summon Monster IV. My question is, if I use the spell (as a scroll- I'm a sorcerer not a wizard) to summon a celestial creature (probably the grizzly bear), would it be able to hit the Lopper?

I'm trying to play this spoiler free, but I know the Lopper is either a haunt or a ghost of some type, and I'm figuring he's a ghost-type. Either way, there's a very high chance that he's going to be incorporeal. I'm not sure if a summoned creature would count as a magic weapon, or if the celestial template would make a difference.

From prior experience with the campaign, I know that if he's a haunt, all bets are off on what will and won't hit him. So my follow up question is, can I use knowledge (arcane) or (religion) to determine what he is before I make my summon?

Thanks much,
-Mystically Inclined

[Umbranus]

No, sadly a summoned animal doesn't count as magic not even a clestial one. But you could use summon monster 4 to summon 1d3 lantern archons for example.
But what has finding the spellbook to do with you using a scroll? I did not get that part.

[VRMH]

The spells in a spellbook do not function as scrolls. In fact, they're not even magical.

[Ilmakis]

To hit an incorporeal creature, your summons must have a DR/magic or have a weapon at least "+1".

The celestial template doesn't give DR/magic nor magical weapon so, unfortunatly can't help to hit incorporeal

[Mystically Inclined]

Thank you all for your answers.

I will have to look at the lantern archon entry again. Sounds like the only thing that would help.

VRMH, I do not know if it's a house rule or if I misunderstood, but I was told SOMETHING can use spells in a spell book as scrolls. Rouges with UMD was the example given, but I assumed it applied to casters and wasn't just a property of UMD.

[ZZTRaider]

My understanding from my DM is that at one point, spellbooks could be used as essentially a "chest of scrolls". As far as I can tell, this is no longer the case, though.

If that were still true, then spellbooks would make cheaper scrolls than scrolls, which is obviously a bit screwy.

[Isil-zha]

your GM may rule that the smite ability of the celestial creature works (if you are even able to use the spell book in that manner)

also I flagged this for a spoiler tag

[VRMH]

Mystically Inclined wrote:

I was told SOMETHING can use spells in a spell book as scrolls

I may well be wrong, but as far as I know the only way to cast spells directly from a Wizard's spellbook is the Arcane Archivist Revelation of the Lore Oracle.

[Ross Byers]

I added a spoiler tag.