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I have read through way too many posts, trying to find a definitive place where this has been answered. Because I have had 0 luck, I am posting this here and FAQing. I am not saying there is no definitive errata or answer, just that I have not found it
Rather than assume everyone knows the information, I will include it in the quote blocks for the various Gun Trainings below.
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Gun Training (Ex): Starting at 5th level, a gunslinger can select one specific type of firearm (such as an axe musket, blunderbuss, musket, or pistol). She gains a bonus equal to her Dexterity modifier on damage rolls when firing that type of firearm. Furthermore, when she misfires with that type of firearm, the misfire value of that firearm increases by 2 instead of 4. Every four levels thereafter (9th, 13th, and 17th), the gunslinger picks up another type of firearm, gaining these bonuses for those types as well.
Pistol Training (Ex): Starting at 5th level, a pistolero increases her skill with one-handed firearms. She gains a bonus on damage rolls equal to her Dexterity modifier, and when she misfires with a one-handed firearm, the misfire value increases by 2 instead of 4. Every four levels thereafter (9th, 13th, and 17th), the bonus on damage rolls increases by +1. At 13th level, a pistolero never misfires with a one-handed firearm.
Musket Training (Ex): Starting at 5th level, a musket master increases her skill with two-handed firearms. She gains a bonus on damage rolls equal to her Dexterity modifier, and when she misfires with a two-handed firearm, the misfire value increases by 2 instead of 4. Every four levels thereafter (9th, 13th, and 17th), the bonus on damage rolls increases by +1. At 13th level, a musket master never misfires with a two-handed firearm. This replaces firearm training 1, 2, 3, and 4.
Stranger’s Fortune (Ex): Starting at 5th level, a mysterious stranger can ignore a firearm misfire a number of times per day equal to her Charisma bonus. She can use this ability as a free action. This ability replaces gun training.
Problems:
1 Pistolero does not replace gun training, granting double bonus from dex to damage.2 Musket master also does not replace gun training, RAW.
3 Mysterious stranger replaces gun training.
Therefore you can combo Mysterious Stranger with either Musket Master or Pistolero Archetypes, or just do insane damage with pistols as a pistolero.
On to the questions!
1) Is Firearm Training the same as Gun Training?
2) Should Pistol Training replace Gun Training?
1) Still hasn't been answered. It's most likely just a mistake.
2) See above. Assume that it does.
Musket Master does replace Gun Training, RAW. It replaces each step of it, so it replaces the whole.
IIRC: You can only add DEX once by R.A.W.
And yeah the Normal Editor must have taken the day off.
When are we gonna get an Errata or F.A.Q.?
Lucky for me, I get to rely on my First Rule of PFS is common sense..
The Core Assumption
The leadership of this campaign assumes that you will use common sense in your interpretation of the rules. This includes being courteous and encouraging a mutual interest in playing, not engaging in endless rules discussions. While you are enjoying the game, be considerate of the others at the table and don’t let your actions keep them from having a good time too. In short, don’t be a jerk.
So I use this every time I talk to someone about the problem. Unfortunately there are always people who argue the above. That is why I am hoping for errata or a FAQ.
To bad the "PFS" GMs in my area don't seem to follow that.
To bad the "PFS" GMs in my area don't seem to follow that.If you have a problem with any of the PFS GMs in your area, take it up with your local Venture Captain or Venture Lieutenant.
Who is higher up the food chain?
You can e-mail them, the e-mail addresses are in the back of the PFS Organized Play book.
Turns out they aren't even official...
Yet they still claim to be PFS.
misprints man misprints...its basically the same ability for pistols as for muskets...they jst forgot that part at the end...as for musket master it say "firearm training" which again is a misprint should say "gun training" since there isn't a "firearm training" lol
You can run a PFS game without being an officer or liaison, so it wouldn't surprise me. Are there no officers in your region?
I haven't heard about any over Springfield, Missouri.
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I'm looking at the guide right now, and I see Missouri has four Venture Captains and three Venture Lieutenants, although the cities covered seem to be Cape Girardeu, Columbia, Kansas City, and St. Louis. Looking at Google maps now, and realizing those are all a pretty long drive.
Still, if you have the most recent Guide to Organized Play downloaded (updated January 7, 2013), that's a choice of seven people to ask questions of.
Meh, I am planning on starting my own Homebrew Group once I get a job and can afford the gas to go to Springfield's only Game Store on a Weekly basis.
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I would at least suggest posting in this thread. They want to know what's going on in their state! :)
I wasn't meaning a PFS Group...
Though I might get one started later on once I finish reading up on Golarion.
I still let them know there is another GMs in Missouri.
Most yes. However, official clarification for the munchkins would save hours of debate / month.
