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At the end of the beta phases of other MMO's, there's been a period where people can go completely wild, since there are no lasting consequences when there's an incoming wipe. With there being no wipe in the transition from Early Enrollment to Open Enrollment, there doesn't seem to be an opportunity for such an apocalypse party.
For a while, UO's backup schedule was such that around 5-15 mins of play were lost on a regular basis due to server reboots. Players could occasionally use this time to experiment with ideas that would be ill-advised in the regular game. UO also occasionally had special-event shards that let players play holiday characters - like things from the Santa Claus mythos - and they were free to run wild without ruining their main characters on regular shards.
I'm thinking it could be fun to have something similar for PFO. One day a year, nothing is 'for keeps'. Maybe for 24 hours, it's all a dream. Devs could be part of the fun as well, logging in as demons down from the Worldwound, or hordes of ice trolls led by winter witches, or even a zombie apocalypse that's spreading up from Geb. Whatever the scenario is, the world is effectively 'destroyed' at the end, so whether good and evil groups ally to defend their lands, or whether they both take advantage of the chaos to go on rampages of their own, it won't matter at the end of that day.
While the 'apocalypse' is happening, an onscreen notice would be posted to let players know what's going on, and when it ends with the 24-hour rollback, that is plainly posted too.
What day? Well, here on Earth I've been advocating for an annual 'joke' holiday called Apocalypse Day, in which we 'celebrate' all the stupid end-of-world predictions that have caused harm in the real world. Maybe if people knew just how many times these predictions have failed, they'd be less inclined to believe the next one and avoid ruining themselves financially, or worse, trying to kill their pets, kids, or themselves. I think May 21 is a good day for it, since that was Harold Camping's failed 'rapture' last year. It could also be a sort of April Fool's joke or a Halloween-ish event, but I'd rather it stand on its own rather than overlapping an existing 'holiday'.
So what do you think? Would it be fun to have an annual 'Apocalypse Day' every May 21 where the world effectively 'ends' only to be reset the next morning as if it were all a bad dream?
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How about the 21st of December as Apocalypse day.
Sure, that's the 'Mayan calendar' thing, but it's too close to Xmas, and I'd rather it be its own thing. Besides, we tend to get a lot more (c)rapture apocalypses, and more people take those seriously, unfortunately.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dates_predicted_for_apocalyptic_events
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Not a bad idea, though some might not like losing a day of training time.
This does make me think that the game should have some form of try before you train option though. Given that it is unlikely we will see skill resets I feel that there should be some kind of magic training room where a player can test out a skill before they start the training. A neat idea would be that on Apocalypse Day this room would be the only "safe" place so what ever you slot up in there would still count for training.
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We're having an apocalypse party this year. We build rockets to see who can get a single artillery shell (the firework kind) the highest before it explodes. People are building all these fancy rockets with multi-stage engines. I'm using pretty puny engines on a huge rocket filled with 50$ of artillery shells! It won't win but it will be fun to watch blow up! >:D
Anyway yeah. Sounds like a fun plan. I think May 21st would be the best time to do it.
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We're having an apocalypse party this year. We build rockets to see who can get a single artillery shell (the firework kind) the highest before it explodes. People are building all these fancy rockets with multi-stage engines. I'm using pretty puny engines on a huge rocket filled with 50$ of artillery shells! It won't win but it will be fun to watch blow up! >:D
Anyway yeah. Sounds like a fun plan. I think May 21st would be the best time to do it.
Please make sure you're getting enough altitude that no burning metal hits the ground.
A "just for fun" time would be interesting, but I wonder about nonparticipating people.
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This sounds like a perfect thing for the community to "flashmob" (flashforge?). It could be something that isn't supported by the devs at all to start, but due to popular demand it becomes canonized (and possibly even mentioned in a tabletop book as a tradition in the River Kingdoms).
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A "just for fun" time would be interesting, but I wonder about nonparticipating people.
Well, it's one day, and it would be clearly advertised in-game and on he website, so people would know what's going on.
This sounds like a perfect thing for the community to "flashmob" (flashforge?). It could be something that isn't supported by the devs at all to start, but due to popular demand it becomes canonized (and possibly even mentioned in a tabletop book as a tradition in the River Kingdoms).
Maybe the devs wouldn't do the disaster scenarios (I guess the apocalypse is mass insanity) at first, but if they also didn't do the rollback, wouldn't that just end up creating a lot of newly-evil characters?
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I mentioned a few apocalyptic scenarios in the original post, what other ones might there be?
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I didn't mean it as much as a crazy-go-nuts day (since I find those distasteful), but as a flashforged holiday in the River Kingdoms.
Edit: Also, you'd have a lot of people that would look at it as "Oh, so I shouldn't bother logging on today."
I guess, but you could skip any particular day, because training time isn't too dependant on your logged-in time.
As to people just 'celebrating' without anything different going on... what would that look like? They could make a full roster of in-game holidays and people would mostly ignore them unless something different was going on that it would be hard to miss.
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I guess, but you could skip any particular day, because training time isn't too dependant on your logged-in time.
You could, but it's taking away from the player's choice. Choosing not to play is very different from being told you can't play. It's like gaoling a character for 24 hours; you don't take that control away from the player.
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You could, but it's taking away from the player's choice. Choosing not to play is very different from being told you can't play. It's like gaoling a character for 24 hours; you don't take that control away from the player.
So freedom from permanent consequences for a day is analogous to incarceration for a day?
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We're having an apocalypse party this year. We build rockets to see who can get a single artillery shell (the firework kind) the highest before it explodes. People are building all these fancy rockets with multi-stage engines. I'm using pretty puny engines on a huge rocket filled with 50$ of artillery shells! It won't win but it will be fun to watch blow up! >:D
Anyway yeah. Sounds like a fun plan. I think May 21st would be the best time to do it.
Please make sure you're getting enough altitude that no burning metal hits the ground.
A "just for fun" time would be interesting, but I wonder about nonparticipating people.
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Don't worry it was perfectly safe. ;)We're having an apocalypse party this year. We build rockets to see who can get a single artillery shell (the firework kind) the highest before it explodes. People are building all these fancy rockets with multi-stage engines. I'm using pretty puny engines on a huge rocket filled with 50$ of artillery shells! It won't win but it will be fun to watch blow up! >:D
Anyway yeah. Sounds like a fun plan. I think May 21st would be the best time to do it.
Please make sure you're getting enough altitude that no burning metal hits the ground.
A "just for fun" time would be interesting, but I wonder about nonparticipating people.
There's a HUGE difference between 'perfectly safe' and 'nobody got hurt'.
It was significantly safer than the amateur mortars I've seen. It didn't look like anybody used any common household supplies in their pyro. (Unused MRE heating packets count as 'common household supplies', right?)
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I love this idea. Sounds like it could be really cool.
As you mentioned above I think that each such day should have some sort of special event tied to it too you mentioned demons, troll invasions and zombie apocalypses, those all sound fun.
Another cool addition to this idea could be to have special rewards that are unique to each such event. Each event should have at least one for participation (ie logging in during that event) but there could always be a few rewards that you could get for completing certain task or something like that.
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Looks like something similar has popped up on the "Could PFO Thrive with No Unsanctioned PvP?" thread.
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Looks like something similar has popped up on the "Could PFO Thrive with No Unsanctioned PvP?" thread.
Yes, Keovar, a similar idea has been launched and will be known as "Green Hat Tuesday".
On the other hand, the messenger is different so I'd assume that Apocalypse Day will get the full endorsement that Green Hat Tuesday did not.
Since I did not suggest it, maybe we could have "No Swords Day", "No Pants Day", "No Holiday Day" (Well, this one is mine).... and they could also be designated days where there is no consequences PVP?
But, don't get me wrong. I fully support Apocalypse Day, and I will burn the world down on that day as best I can!!! Perhaps it could be followed by "World Peace Day" and no PVP takes place?
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I have to agree with Drakhan here; if the day will be rolled back, many people will look at it as pointless to log in, maybe even less than that as they'll be dying significantly more than on an average day when it's "apocalypse day" (at least, presumably they would). Though I myself would likely enjoy such an event, perhaps there's a less intrusive way to do in-game events.
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There will not be a server wipe going from EE to OE. When this kind of "Anything Goes" event was brought up months ago, a significantly vocal group was opposed because they felt that at no time should there be "condoned" meaningless PVP.
If we are to have FFA days, then they should be limited to just a few per year and they should have a good reason for existing in PFO.
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@Bludd, in the OP Keovar says "Whatever the scenario is, the world is effectively 'destroyed' at the end, so whether good and evil groups ally to defend their lands, or whether they both take advantage of the chaos to go on rampages of their own, it won't matter at the end of that day." I took that to mean rolling back after the holiday so that any shenanigans are negated.
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I fully support Apocalypse Day, and I will burn the world down on that day as best I can!!! Perhaps it could be followed by "World Peace Day" and no PVP takes place?
What's with the snarky bitterness? I saw something similar in what you suggested and something I'd mentioned a while back.
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I fully support Apocalypse Day, and I will burn the world down on that day as best I can!!! Perhaps it could be followed by "World Peace Day" and no PVP takes place?What's with the snarky bitterness? I saw something similar in what you suggested and something I'd mentioned a while back.
The snarkiness is not directed at you Keovar, I support your idea of an Apocalypse Day.
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Not sure if my next.... rocket will be on Armageddon or New Years this year.
