I want to be an elf!


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So I am a half elf and I want to know if there is a rules legal way to turn myself into an elf? I suppose other rules bending suggestions would be nice too.

Silver Crusade

There's a spell in Advanced Race Guide that does exactly this, IIRC.

All sorts of moral quandaries, angst, villains, and character motivations coming out of that single spell.

edit-scatch that, the PRD is turning up a half-orc -> orc spell but none of the other half-blood transformation equivalents. It's not unreasonable to look for equivalent spells from the appropriate casters though.

Grand Lodge

Kill yourself. Reincarnate.


Why didn't you start the game as an Elf, just out of Curio City?


Polymorph other.


I would like the change to be permanent

Grand Lodge

A wish can probably accomplish this, subject to your GM's ruling, since it can duplicate reincarnate with at least two spell levels to spare.

Polymorph any object definitely works, is permanent, but can be dispelled.


Well, this is not entirely what you wanted, but there is the Paragon Surge Spell that is available to most magic using classes as a 3 or 4 level spell if you are a half elf. You get an extra +2 Dex and +2 Int, as well as add a temporary feat that you are qualified for. Basically showing how you are the best of both worlds. It lasts for minutes per level, so it is a rather good combat self buff.


the visectionist alchemist has a particularly gruesome (imo) ability to surgically polymorph you into another race.

Spoiler:
Baleful Polymorph

School transmutation (polymorph); Level druid 5, sorcerer/wizard 5

Casting Time 1 standard action

Components V, S

Range close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)

Target one creature

Duration permanent

Saving Throw: Fortitude negates, Will partial, see text; Spell Resistance: yes

As beast shape III, except that you change the subject into a Small or smaller animal of no more than 1 HD. If the new form would prove fatal to the creature, such as an aquatic creature not in water, the subject gets a +4 bonus on the save.

If the spell succeeds, the subject must also make a Will save. If this second save fails, the creature loses its extraordinary, supernatural, and spell-like abilities, loses its ability to cast spells (if it had the ability), and gains the alignment, special abilities, and Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma scores of its new form in place of its own. It still retains its class and level (or HD), as well as all benefits deriving therefrom (such as base attack bonus, base save bonuses, and hit points). It retains any class features (other than spellcasting) that aren't extraordinary, supernatural, or spell-like abilities.

Any polymorph effects on the target are automatically dispelled when a target fails to resist the effects of baleful polymorph, and as long as baleful polymorph remains in effect, the target cannot use other polymorph spells or effects to assume a new form. Incorporeal or gaseous creatures are immune to baleful polymorph, and a creature with the shapechanger subtype can revert to its natural form as a standard action.


I'd just go with the spell since it's the same thing.

Grand Lodge

Drow Fleshwarping?


blackbloodtroll wrote:
Kill yourself. Reincarnate.

This is the best way. It can be really exensive depending on how unlucky you are, taking into account repeated attempts and restorations. And it's permanent enough that the only way you'd get turned back is by a wish or miracle.

Grand Lodge

Darth Grall wrote:
blackbloodtroll wrote:
Kill yourself. Reincarnate.
This is the best way. It can be really exensive depending on how unlucky you are, taking into account repeated attempts and restorations. And it's permanent enough that the only way you'd get turned back is by a wish or miracle.

The Salve of the Second Chance will up your odds.

Then again, you could also take levels in Reincarnated Druid instead.

Silver Crusade

If this is a big deal, ask your GM. Maybe you can 'quest' for it. You must be careful with such an endeavor though. How are race relations in your world? Would the act of becoming an elf be viewed as a 'purification'? If so, there is ample opportunity for (mature) roleplaying and much moral/ethical exposistion. Otherwise, if the campaign is fresh enough it could be "No, I was an elf the whole time, do I look humanish to you? Do I need a new haircut?"


Wish maybe?

Work with your GM to set up a quest at which end you will be transformed into an elf.


Thanks for the advice so far!
Question maybe I am misunderstanding the spell, but Baleful Polymorph seems way too strong for a level 5 spell. Sound like if the subject fails the save the are totally boned and can't do a thing about it.


prometheus's_curse wrote:

Thanks for the advice so far!

Question maybe I am misunderstanding the spell, but Baleful Polymorph seems way too strong for a level 5 spell. Sound like if the subject fails the save the are totally boned and can't do a thing about it.

It's a single target save or suck spell that requires 2 saves, that has to get past SR and can be dispelled/removed fairly easily. It's not great at all compared to a lot of other spells. Plus you gotta be careful which person you transform. I mean, yes a wizard would be boned; but a fighter morphed to a badger can still suprisingly be effective in combat with it's high BAB and strong HD.

It's still good, but not game breaking at all.

Starfinder

prometheus's_curse wrote:
So I am a half elf and I want to know if there is a rules legal way to turn myself into an elf? I suppose other rules bending suggestions would be nice too.

Not everything in a game needs to come from rules. Frequently story progression will require that the Gamemaster step away from the box of a fixed ruleset and just decide that something needs to happen. He may throw in requirements such as tests of skill and more importantly... of character. Maybe even game years of a process to find the "elf way", so to speak.

There are no quick and easy answers within the ruleset itself, you're just going to have to talk to your DM and arrange some kind of story path.


cut off your legs and hope they're the human half.

EDIT: Though I guess you'd still be stuck as half an elf, darn.


Man if there is a belt in this game that when put on makes a man a lady and vice versa then I think it's pretty easy to make this happen for this person who just wants to be a dang elf since they're like halfway there anyway.

Dark Archive

Easiest method:

Step One: Start telling everyone you are actually an elf and have been since the beginning.

Step Two: ...

Step Three: Profit!

Grand Lodge

Lamontius wrote:


Man if there is a belt in this game that when put on makes a man a lady and vice versa then I think it's pretty easy to make this happen for this person who just wants to be a dang elf since they're like halfway there anyway.

Read the Cursed Magic Item Section? Switch gender and alignment instantly.


No no no I know the dang thing exists I'm just saying if there is a belt that can give AM BARBARIAN instant lady bits then how hard would it be to just put something in your dang game for a a half-elf player to become a full-on elfy elf?

I mean, make her and her party go forth to find the Girdle of Elfness or something.


Why didnt you start off as an elf to begin with? There is also a trait IIRC in ARG that gives a half elf some of the benefits of being an elf.


Mikaze wrote:

There's a spell in Advanced Race Guide that does exactly this, IIRC.

All sorts of moral quandaries, angst, villains, and character motivations coming out of that single spell.

edit-scatch that, the PRD is turning up a half-orc -> orc spell but none of the other half-blood transformation equivalents. It's not unreasonable to look for equivalent spells from the appropriate casters though.

If you're a spellcaster, you COULD always ask your GM if you could create the spell. In essence, the spell would be a carbon copy of the half-blood removal spell, but it works to turn a Half-Elf into a full Elf.

Contributor

Since a full-on wish can do a full-on racial change, it's reasonable to assume a limited wish could do a partial racial change, like making a half-elf all elf or all human.

If you want specific explicitly in-the-rules way to do this, find a powerful witch with the Forced Reincarnation Hex and pay her to power cycle her hex until you end up a full elf.

Personally, as a GM, I'd make up a vivisectionist alchemist type who comes up with some form of interesting blood transfusion business to drain the humanity out of you and replace it with full-on elf blood. And I'd have him/her having done previous mostly successful trials turning half-orcs into either full orcs or full humans. And occasionally full corpses.

S/He looks forward to trying his/her process with a half-elven subject. Remember, this is for science!


Of course, you'd need a refill on elf juice every so often. But the deaths of dozens of innocent Legolases is just a small price to pay for extra pointy ears.

Part of me would want this to go so horribly wrong that the ears are pointy enough to count as a gore attack.

Starfinder

Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:

Since a full-on wish can do a full-on racial change, it's reasonable to assume a limited wish could do a partial racial change, like making a half-elf all elf or all human.

That's not a partial racial change. A Half-Elven is just as much a race as Elf or Human.


LazarX wrote:
Kevin Andrew Murphy wrote:

Since a full-on wish can do a full-on racial change, it's reasonable to assume a limited wish could do a partial racial change, like making a half-elf all elf or all human.

That's not a partial racial change. A Half-Elven is just as much a race as Elf or Human.

Swing and a miss. (At the point)

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