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Is there anything preventing the oracle's life mystery revelation Safe Curing from affecting the feat Channeled Revival?
Whenever you cast a spell that cures the target of hit point damage, you do not provoke attacks of opportunity for spellcasting.
As a full-round action that provokes attacks of opportunity, you can expend three uses of your channel energy class feature to restore a dead creature to life as if you had cast the breath of life spell (Core Rulebook 251).
Channeling doesn't provoke anyway. So it wouldn't matter.
Edit: Forget what i said that's totally wrong.
Well, for one thing Channeled Revival isn't a spell. So it doesn't work that way. Even if it was a spell-like ability, it wouldn't work, since abilities that modify spells only modify spells, not spell-like abilities.
Yes, which makes it a spell like ability.
No, it does not apply. Just cast defensively--it's stupidly easy.
Yep. And the AoO doesn't come from it acting like Breath of Life. It comes from the actual ability. It's a bit strange.
Now, if it provoked two AoOs, one from using the ability and one from "as if you had cast Breath of Life", then I think it's possible that with safe curing the second one wouldn't provoke.
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Actually, a good question would be to see Channeled Revival is a spell-like ability or a supernatural ability.
Arcane Blast was clarified on which type of ability it was, this one will probably as well.
So let's FAQ this post.
I think it's a supernatural ability for these reasons:
- It's based on Channeling, which is (Su).
- Spell-like abilities are stated to be such, and the "provokes AoO" bit would be redundant.
- Supernatural abilities do not intrinsically provoke, so specifying that it provokes makes sense if it were (Su).
Probably some more reasons too.
I'm just not sure if the rules agree.
Sorry, they do not.
But now I'm intrigued by whether this is an Su or Sp.
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Here's the way I like to look at spell-like abilities, whether the rules agrees or not:
If it would affect an actual spell, it also affects a spell-like ability.
I'm just not sure if the rules agree.
Well, I generally have a nice detailed post about this whenever it comes up, but ever since Sean said it, it's so much easier to just link to this.
So the rules don't really agree with your take, but if this is a home game, ask your GM :)
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Here's the way I like to look at spell-like abilities, whether the rules agrees or not:
If it would affect an actual spell, it also affects a spell-like ability.
I'm just not sure if the rules agree.
Well, I generally have a nice detailed post about this whenever it comes up, but ever since Sean said it, it's so much easier to just link to this.
So the rules don't really agree with your take, but if this is a home game, ask your GM :)
Thanks for providing the link.
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Channeled Revival modifies a Supernatural Ability (su) (making it a full round action) to behave like breath of life. It does not say it changes it's type to a spell or spell like ability.
Safe curing only affects spells.
So in this case I would say Safe Curing does not apply.
Can one defensively "cast" a supernatural ability (Su)? If not, it seems to me that whether Channeled Revival is an (Su) or an (Sp) matters quite a lot here as one can be cast defensively (Sp) and the other might not.
Can one defensively "cast" a supernatural ability (Su)?
Supernatural Abilities don't provoke.
-edit- more correctly, Supernatural Abilities "generally don't provoke"
Yeah, when I suggested defensive casting, I had assumed it was a Spell-like ability since it duplicated a spell. Cheapy thinks otherwise for very good reasons.
If it's an (sp), then you can cast defensively. If it's (su), then there's no way for it not to provoke because it explicitly does.