
Thefurmonger |

Hey all.
So I was helping my wife with her Ranger (just hit 4th level) and she wanted an AC. Anyway she settled on a Badger (apperently it's "cute")
Anyway, what I found intresting was this
Special Attacks Rage (as a barbarian, 6 rounds per day)
Not some "kinda rage" not some "psudo rage" but real barbarian rage.
It seems that Badgers are really upset for some reason.
So I got to thinking how can we work with this for another character?
I'm thinking someone with rage (barbarian, or take the rage domain) and somehow use some of the teamwork feats for rage?
Give our little buddy a 3 int so he can take all the feats and load up on rage feats? (extra rage, raging vitality)
really this is just a half formed idea based on the thought of an angry Badger, so come on guys help me form it into something fun.

Hitdice |

The PFSRD entry on animal companions explains the number and type of feats allowed. (You have to scroll down a bit to find the Feats explanation.)

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Ya know, Clerics don't have to worship a deity. It's completely within the rules to be a cleric that has the Animal and Destruction domains, so long as you justify how the two fit together as a goal or belief of the cleric.
"I AM A CLERIC OF RAGEBADGER!!!"
Seriously though, this will vary based on campaign setting. Golarion, for instance, only has deity-affiliated clerics. (This is why the Separatist archetype exists: to allow clerics in such settings an option for custom domain pairs, albeit at a price.)

Kalridian |

Seriously though, this will vary based on campaign setting. Golarion, for instance, only has deity-affiliated clerics. (This is why the Separatist archetype exists: to allow clerics in such settings an option for custom domain pairs, albeit at a price.)
Where exactly do you get this from? The rules are explicitly stating that a cleric does NOT need to be following a deity. I always took the corerules to be golarion-oriented.

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Jiggy wrote:Seriously though, this will vary based on campaign setting. Golarion, for instance, only has deity-affiliated clerics. (This is why the Separatist archetype exists: to allow clerics in such settings an option for custom domain pairs, albeit at a price.)Where exactly do you get this from? The rules are explicitly stating that a cleric does NOT need to be following a deity. I always took the corerules to be golarion-oriented.
Devs and various Golarion sourcebooks have all said that Golarion only has Deity-centric clerics. PFS also holds you to the deity requirement. Golarion is mostly core.

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Jiggy wrote:Seriously though, this will vary based on campaign setting. Golarion, for instance, only has deity-affiliated clerics. (This is why the Separatist archetype exists: to allow clerics in such settings an option for custom domain pairs, albeit at a price.)Where exactly do you get this from? The rules are explicitly stating that a cleric does NOT need to be following a deity. I always took the corerules to be golarion-oriented.
Ehh... They're kinda/kinda not Golarion... All the hardback books are supposed to be setting-neutral (something that keeps having to be explained to PFS players who don't get why X was banned when it doesn't seem overpowered), but the glaring exception is that they listed Golarion deities in the CRB - I'm guessing the only reason such a setting-specific thing went in is because customers wouldn't be too happy about buying a CRB but then having to either invent an entire pantheon or buy a separate supplement in order to just play the friggin' game. :/

Thefurmonger |

Still not a RAW restriction.
While this is true for the Pathfinder RPG, it is RAW for PFS and as that is the sub-system a lot of us play, for some it is RAW.
This is also why the sepratist archtype is out there.
And if you really want to debate it can you do it in another thread?
Your raining on the parade that is RAGEBADGER!!!

Gluttony |

As a note, one doesn't have to worship a deity with both of the domains to get them both. Just worship one that has one of those two domains and take the Separatist archetype.
Separatist reduces the level of one of your domains though. Probably best to take a deity with destruction/rage and use separatist for the animal companion. You probably don't want to get the badger at 4th level and then have to wait until 10th level to get that rage after all. It's easier to wait for 6th level to get the badger with the rage coming at its usual 8th level.

Johnico |
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Wait, there is no RAW for some, but not for others.
Either it is RAW, or Houserule.
So a Rule that is Written in an official book about Golarion that says "In the world of Golarion, all Clerics must worship a deity. There are no Clerics of concepts," is not a Rule as Written? It's a houserule?

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And deal lord, please Jiggy, stat out a cleric of Ragebadger.
Rawrface (20pt buy)
CN Half-orc Cleric 8 of GlaunderDomains: Fur, Rage
STR 20 (15 +2race +1HD +2belt)
DEX 10
CON 14
INT 10
WIS 18 (15 +1HD +2headband)
CHA 11
Traits: Bully, Savannah Child (handle animal)
Feats: Heavy Armor Proficiency, Power Attack, Boon Companion, Toughness
HP: 75 (91 while raging)
AC: 23 (10 +11armor, +1deflection, +1natural), 21 while raging
Melee: +1 falchion (Power Attack) +10/+5 (2d4+14/18-20), +12/+7 (2d4+17/18-20) while raging
Saves: Fort +9 Ref +3 Will +11 (+13 while raging)
Skills: Intimidate +14, Handle Animal +12 (+16 for Ragebadger)
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Ragebadger
STR 16
DEX 17
CON 17
INT 03
WIS 12
CHA 10
Feats: Armor Proficiency (light), Armor Proficiency (medium), Toughness, Power Attack
HP: 59 (73 while raging)
AC: 26 (10 +6natural +3DEX +7armor), 24 while raging
Melee: (Power Attacking, Amulet of Mighty Fists +1) Bite +7 (1d6+8), 2 claws +7 (1d4+8); or bite +9 (1d6+10) and 2 claws +9 (1d4+10) while raging
Saves: Fort +8 Ref +8 Will +3 (+5 while raging)
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I probably did a terrible job, as I've never made a barbarian or used a "pet" class. I also just threw this together without checking WBL or anything. Gave Rawrface +2 armor, ring of prot +1, amulet of nat armor +1, cloak of resistance +1, and a +1 weapon. Gave Ragebadger a +1 breastplate and +1 AoMF. Hope that's close enough to at least get a snapshot of the possibilities. :)

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Actually, I suggest Urazra, for flavor, and nab a Bear Pelt of the Bonebreaker, for a Bear and Badger rage duo.

johnlocke90 |
blackbloodtroll wrote:So a Rule that is Written in an official book about Golarion that says "In the world of Golarion, all Clerics must worship a deity. There are no Clerics of concepts," is not a Rule as Written? It's a houserule?Wait, there is no RAW for some, but not for others.
Either it is RAW, or Houserule.
I would argue that pathfinder society is a variant rulebook. Its similar to third party publishers who provide alternate rules for the game. It definitely isn't a RAW interpretation of Pathfinder. Core rulebooks are raw. Rules from other sources aren't.

Joegoat |

Ragebadger
STR 16
DEX 17
CON 17
INT 03
WIS 12
CHA 10Feats: Armor Proficiency (light), Armor Proficiency (medium), Toughness, Power Attack
HP: 59 (73 while raging)
AC: 26 (10 +6natural +3DEX +7armor), 24 while raging
Melee: (Power Attacking, Amulet of Mighty Fists +1) Bite +7 (1d6+8), 2 claws +7 (1d4+8); or bite +9 (1d6+10) and 2 claws +9 (1d4+10) while raging
Saves: Fort +8 Ref +8 Will +3 (+5 while raging)
That is one badass badger...

Joegoat |

A few scrolls or a wand of animal growth would help tremendously too. The ac would even out with the neg. To dex and the boost to nat. Armor but it would grant a +8 to str. And a +4 to con. Plus the damage dice would increase.
Is there anyway a druid could obtain these two domains either by feats or archtypes? Im sure the druids spell list would be much more helpful to the build than the clerics

Johnico |

Johnico wrote:I would argue that pathfinder society is a variant rulebook. Its similar to third party publishers who provide alternate rules for the game. It definitely isn't a RAW interpretation of Pathfinder. Core rulebooks are raw. Rules from other sources aren't.blackbloodtroll wrote:So a Rule that is Written in an official book about Golarion that says "In the world of Golarion, all Clerics must worship a deity. There are no Clerics of concepts," is not a Rule as Written? It's a houserule?Wait, there is no RAW for some, but not for others.
Either it is RAW, or Houserule.
Unless the rule is in a world book (such as the "Casters must worship a deity" rule of Golarion), in which case that variant rule is essentially RAW for that specific world.
That's how I view it, anyway. Specific campaign settings that operate in a way different from Core can essentially write new RAW for how something works in that specific setting. Maybe how I view RAW is slightly malleable compared to other people, as I find RAW is partially based on campaign setting?