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Hi, this is maybe pretty obvious to a lot of people, but I can't find the answer anywhere...
Can someone tell me why all Core Classes have all the Craft skills as Class skills, but all the Prestige Classes don't?
Some Craft skills seem to me essential for some classes, for example Craft (Alchemy) for the Master Chemist or the Daggermark Poisoner.
Is there a logical reason why Prestige Classes don't have them as Class skills? As far as I know, Class skills from your previous classes don't stack with your Prestige Class Class skills, right?
Thanks.
Since all base classes have craft as a class skill, and you can't prestige without taking levels in a base class, all characters with a prestige class with have craft as a class skill (from their previous base class). Anytime you multiclass, the class skills of your new class are added to those of your previous class(es). A skill being a class skill does nothing but add a flat +3 to the skill if you put at least one rank in it. Basically, adding craft as a class skill to prestige classes is redundant.
As long as you have at least one level in any class that grants something as a class skill, it's a class skill for you. You don't lose class skills by multiclassing.
That's why Prestige Classes don't have Craft as class skills - because anyone taking levels in Prestige Classes already must have levels in core classes, and since the core classes all get Craft, they must already have Craft as a class skill anyhow.
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You still can put ranks is core class skills if you multi-class into a prestige class.
Once a class skill always a skill for your character.
If I have slight of hand from rogue, and take alchemist, i can still put my skill ranks into slight of hand.
And technically you can put ranks in any skill (except trained skills, marked with an *), it's only if they are a class skill you get the +3 bonus.
But if my base and my PRC offer me Craft XX, you still only get the +3 once.
EDIT: Everyone types faster than me....
And technically you can put ranks in any skill (except trained skills, marked with an *), it's only if they are a class skill you get the +3 bonus.
You can put ranks in trained-only skills even if they're not class skills. The only thing being a class skill does is grant you a +3 bonus if you have a rank in it.
Everyone can put a rank into Disable Device, and thus be able to pick locks with a DC higher than 10.
-edit- Except Fly, which requires regular means of flight before you can put ranks in it.
"Once a class skill, always a class skill" is right.
As for the reason, PrCs typically don't gain Craft or Profession as class skills because you're expected to have them already. Actually, PrCs gain fewer class skills in general for that reason.
Fighter training can also be assumed to be life training. The same is not true for PrCs, which assume that you already have training in day-to-day skills and activities as they're meant to be prestige classes that you qualify for later in life.
Daron Woodson
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ok, cool, I thought that when you took a level in another class, you would have to spend 2 points of skills to increase 1 rank in a skill that is not a class skill of the class you are taking a level in... that was not pretty clear...
Let's say a Rogue takes a Fighter level, and he wants to increase its Stealth (already has 1 rank in it and the +3), he only has to sprend 1 skill point to increase Stealth by 1 rank even if it is not a Class skill for Fighters?
Why was I under that impression? Is it an old rule that was left out in the Pathfinder system and I never noticed?
Anyway, thanks guys, you made one of my players happy!!! ^^
The spending 2 ranks to gain a point was an old 3.5 rule that was THANKFULLY removed from Pathfinder. :-D