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D&D oldtimer here, and while working on a character from Cheliax, I come across the rather interesting mention of Succubi being the sort to "invite" children from the Prime Material to their birthday masquerades, I was fascinated with the idea, and chose to work it into my Cheliaxan paladin.
However, weirdly enough, the source for this information, being a copy of Kobold Quartery (issue number 22, I think.) gives the indication that the succubi it discusses come from the Nine Hells, not the Abyss.
So I suppose my question is; Do both sides now make use of Succubi? I looked at the Erinyes, and they don't seem particularly "tempting" anymore, having gone back to their roots as the mythical furies, and knowing Devils in general, they would absolutely have someone to tempt on their side, it's in their MO, after all.
And furthermore, is the Bloodwar still on in Golarion's outer planes? To be honest, preferring the D&D cosmology to all others, I just used the classic and stuck it onto the new without really considering the new cosmology, since what I did see seemed to similar, and figured it simpler to merely graft the familiar to it. (That and, well, Golarion deserves a place alongside Krynn, Aber-Toril, Athas, Mystara, Oerth and the rest of the Crystal Spheres far more than this "Points of Light" 4th Edition b&!!~~#@ does.)
Succubi are demons in pathfinder. That issue might have been referencing D & D 4E. They made succubi devils for some reason.
Also, while the demons and devils don't get along there doesn't seem to be a blood war going on between the two side (According to James Jacobs).
Succubi as Demons instead of Devils has never, ever made sense. It was one of the stupidest changes I can remember in my gaming history.
I said "one of" ;)
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Devils never really seemed all that devilish to me. They formed great armies and created devilish soldiers in their war against heaven and the demons.
Devils did not tempt mortals. They didn't seem interested in mortals at all. Check their skills. Their skills in diplomacy, intimidate and bluff were pitifully stated compared to their level. Based upon that they were miserable at tempting. They were however, great at wading in and slaughtering.
Even Pathfinder devils are woefully designed. They exist with no real purpose, just more monsters to slay.
I think they've decided that Daemons have taken on the role of "tempting and soul-bargaining."
At least it seems that way according to the Book of the Damned Vol 3.
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D&D oldtimer here, and while working on a character from Cheliax, I come across the rather interesting mention of Succubi being the sort to "invite" children from the Prime Material to their birthday masquerades, I was fascinated with the idea, and chose to work it into my Cheliaxan paladin.
However, weirdly enough, the source for this information, being a copy of Kobold Quartery (issue number 22, I think.) gives the indication that the succubi it discusses come from the Nine Hells, not the Abyss.
So I suppose my question is; Do both sides now make use of Succubi? I looked at the Erinyes, and they don't seem particularly "tempting" anymore, having gone back to their roots as the mythical furies, and knowing Devils in general, they would absolutely have someone to tempt on their side, it's in their MO, after all.
And furthermore, is the Bloodwar still on in Golarion's outer planes? To be honest, preferring the D&D cosmology to all others, I just used the classic and stuck it onto the new without really considering the new cosmology, since what I did see seemed to similar, and figured it simpler to merely graft the familiar to it. (That and, well, Golarion deserves a place alongside Krynn, Aber-Toril, Athas, Mystara, Oerth and the rest of the Crystal Spheres far more than this "Points of Light" 4th Edition b*%+*!&* does.)
Erinyes devils aren't about temptation. They're about revenge and punishment—they're based on the legendary Furies and are the ones who come in to unleash punishment.
That said... illusion is one method that devils make a lot of use out of when interacting with mortals; that's why so many of them have at-will illusion spells. They also make a lot of use of Bluff, Diplomacy, and Intimidate checks. If you're looking for the contract-signing stuff... check out Bestiary 3's Contract Devil. The best place to go for devil and demon stuff for Pathfinder at this point, though, are the first two Books of the Damned—Princes of Darkness and Lords of Chaos.
While Pathfinder is an evolution of D&D... it is NOT D&D. The OGL lets us use the rules of 3rd edition D&D's d20 system but it does not let us use the flavor of D&D's settings. And among those flavors are the Blood War.
We thus specifically went a different route with our fiends in Pathfinder. It's not a blatantly obvious difference, but it exists. There is no Blood War, and as such you can certainly have situations where devils and demons work together, even if it IS pretty rare. When this happens, it more or less works the same way as when you have lawful and chaotic good outsiders (or for the cynically minded, PCs) working together—they can get stuff done but they argue a lot.
In Pathfinder, the three fiend races break down like this:
Devils: They want to destroy your mind. They seek to corrupt your faith and loyalty and turn you away from your deities and countries and families to serve Hell. Their primary role in the Great Beyond is to keep the Machine of Hell running, and that means they need to be good at the roles of things like jailors and torturers and bureaucrats and soldiers. On Golarion, a devil will either try to trick you into betraying your values by offering rewards or the like or by supporting your cause behind the scenes if you're doing something that oppresses those who oppose you.
Demons: They want to destroy your body. And your house. And your nation. And your friends and families. They are not only agents of destruction and ruin and entropy, but they're also physical manifestations of the various sins mortal souls commit. This includes the classic seven deadly sins, but also more beyond that like arson, treachery, suicide, and necrophilia. They generally aren't subtle in their methods, but some (particularly succubui) can be VERY subtle in how they trick mortals into destroying themselves or their loved ones or their works.
Daemons: They want your soul. They don't care about recruiting you to help their cause (like devils), nor do they care about drawing out your pain and ruining your life (demons). They're there to funnel your souls to Abaddon and then chase them and eat them. They're the ultimate nihilists of the fiend races.
FINALLY: there are crossovers. You have devils that are powerful forces of destruction. You have demons that are seductive. There's no hard-and-fast rule that states all outsiders of a specific alignment have to be the same.
In the end, Golarion's Great Beyond is absolutely built to be very similar to D&D's classic Great Wheel cosmology. But like all other story elements, we can't use the Great Wheel, so the Great Beyond is different in ways. And that does have some impact on the way Golarion works that change things if you instead use the Great Wheel... but overall, the world still works overall if you DO use the Great Wheel.
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Devils never really seemed all that devilish to me. They formed great armies and created devilish soldiers in their war against heaven and the demons.
Devils did not tempt mortals. They didn't seem interested in mortals at all. Check their skills. Their skills in diplomacy, intimidate and bluff were pitifully stated compared to their level. Based upon that they were miserable at tempting. They were however, great at wading in and slaughtering.
Even Pathfinder devils are woefully designed. They exist with no real purpose, just more monsters to slay.
I'd be interested to know if you've checked out Book of the Damned I: Princes of Darkness, and if so, if you still feel this way.
The entries in the Bestiary for ALL the fiends is pretty much focused entirely on the combat stuff... a lot of fiends are complex and since the Bestiary's world neutral anyway... the bulk of devilish flavor ended up in Princes of Darkness.
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AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!
This wouldn't have anything to do with the Moon, would it?
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AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!
Well then, in the spirit of that, I think I'll stick to using the great Wheel and the Blood War, since, well, I just love Planescape so damn much, and the Blood War is just plane (heh) awesome, Sigil is a fantastic location and the classic D&D meshes pretty well, I think; especially since things like Spelljammer and the like would be a great excuse to explore the Dark Tapestry.
Example; I have a book that is holy to Nethys in my campaign, the players think it's really a "book of ultimate knowledge" when in reality, there's a limit, it's a recreation of a library Nethys studied at to discover his method of achieving omniscience, when he did a bit of planetrotting.
What was this library? The Final Library of Vecna, the last surviving example of which, is the Shadowed Room.
The fact that Beholders, Mind Flayers, The Great Wheel, and so many other fantastic things are closed off to Paizo and yet still in the hands of WoTC saddens me to no end.
If Wizards does decide to sell the D&D licence if (when) D&D Next fails,I would be eager to see Paizo pick it up.
As for my succubus problem, well, since Devils and Demons still hate each other, I think I'll be using the flavor about Succubi celebrating their birth with a masquerade, and this particular succubus chose to tweak the nose of a particular devil as a birthday present, hence, she goes to Cheliax and grabs a young boy this devil is eyeing.
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AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!This wouldn't have anything to do with the Moon, would it?
Get your own moon and stay off mine!
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AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!This wouldn't have anything to do with the Moon, would it?
Not at all. That one's already out.
We devils aren't to subtle because we rarely need to be. After all we are giving you an honest deal. It isn't about tricking you mortals at all, and there is nothing to be wary of. That's why we offer contracts; so both sides know what they are getting.
Nothing to worry about at all, just a simple business deal.
While IP considerations prevent there from being 'The Blood War' in PF, demons and devils do indeed war in Golarion's cosmology. But the planar conflict in the Great Beyond isn't dominated by the LE/CE conflict like the Blood War is. It's much more expansive, with many more active players, and not as much perpetually hot war versus monolithic parties.
Rather than largely only being CE versus LE, CN rages against CE and LN punctuated with bits against LG and LE; CE is against everything including itself, NE only really cares about killing mortals in the longterm, etc.
AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!
Anything you can tell us about how succubi want to "destroy your body?"
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AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!Anything you can tell us about how succubi want to "destroy your body?"
It involves corkscrews.
It involves corkscrews.AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!Anything you can tell us about how succubi want to "destroy your body?"
I'd have guessed "through lots and lots of physical exertion" :)
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We devils aren't to subtle because we rarely need to be. After all we are giving you an honest deal. It isn't about tricking you mortals at all, and there is nothing to be wary of. That's why we offer contracts; so both sides know what they are getting.
Nothing to worry about at all, just a simple business deal.
Which is part of why I left home.
When I see things like you, I do the practical thing, and kill them.
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AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!Anything you can tell us about how succubi want to "destroy your body?"
Well in the Heroes in Hell series there was the 'Welcome Wagon'.
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We devils aren't to subtle because we rarely need to be. After all we are giving you an honest deal. It isn't about tricking you mortals at all, and there is nothing to be wary of. That's why we offer contracts; so both sides know what they are getting.
Nothing to worry about at all, just a simple business deal.
Which is part of why I left home.
When I see things like you, I do the practical thing, and kill them.
Nay, offering a chance to find redemption in the Lady's embrace is always an option. If they refuse her light, then, sadly, ending their existance is an option. But a choice must always be offered.
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It involves corkscrews.AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!Anything you can tell us about how succubi want to "destroy your body?"
Why do you have to give away all of our secrets? :)
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Why do you have to give away all of our secrets? :)It involves corkscrews.AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!Anything you can tell us about how succubi want to "destroy your body?"
You should know that's just the tip of the iceberg!
Nay, offering a chance to find redemption in the Lady's embrace is always an option. If they refuse her light, then, sadly, ending their existance is an option. But a choice must always be offered.We devils aren't to subtle because we rarely need to be. After all we are giving you an honest deal. It isn't about tricking you mortals at all, and there is nothing to be wary of. That's why we offer contracts; so both sides know what they are getting.
Nothing to worry about at all, just a simple business deal.
Which is part of why I left home.
When I see things like you, I do the practical thing, and kill them.
I've given more than a few lovely infernal ladies quite a delightful embrace. But my gods why would you want to redeem them? Seems like a terrible waste of a good experienced harlot if I say so myself.
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I've given more than a few lovely infernal ladies quite a delightful embrace. But my gods why would you want to redeem them? Seems like a terrible waste of a good experienced harlot if I say so myself.Nay, offering a chance to find redemption in the Lady's embrace is always an option. If they refuse her light, then, sadly, ending their existance is an option. But a choice must always be offered.We devils aren't to subtle because we rarely need to be. After all we are giving you an honest deal. It isn't about tricking you mortals at all, and there is nothing to be wary of. That's why we offer contracts; so both sides know what they are getting.
Nothing to worry about at all, just a simple business deal.
Which is part of why I left home.
When I see things like you, I do the practical thing, and kill them.
Personally Idon't understand the bigotry exhibited by some people. I mean you don't see me running around killing things just because Idon't like their business practices.
I mean people come to me with legitimate needs - needs the "other team" won't fulfill simply because they are "unworthy" (whatever THAT means) so when Igive them it at my cost the other side gets upset.
Heal my sick mother! Done, collect my payment and move on. Unlike the other guy that's going to lie about his cost calling it "faith" to put a thin veil of ligitamacy on his demand of slavery to his ethos.
And I'm the "bad" guy!
I've given more than a few lovely infernal ladies quite a delightful embrace. But my gods why would you want to redeem them? Seems like a terrible waste of a good experienced harlot if I say so myself.Nay, offering a chance to find redemption in the Lady's embrace is always an option. If they refuse her light, then, sadly, ending their existance is an option. But a choice must always be offered.We devils aren't to subtle because we rarely need to be. After all we are giving you an honest deal. It isn't about tricking you mortals at all, and there is nothing to be wary of. That's why we offer contracts; so both sides know what they are getting.
Nothing to worry about at all, just a simple business deal.
Which is part of why I left home.
When I see things like you, I do the practical thing, and kill them.
Personally Idon't understand the bigotry exhibited by some people. I mean you don't see me running around killing things just because Idon't like their business practices.
I mean people come to me with legitimate needs - needs the "other team" won't fulfill simply because they are "unworthy" (whatever THAT means) so when Igive them it at my cost the other side gets upset.
Heal my sick mother! Done, collect my payment and move on. Unlike the other guy that's going to lie about his cost calling it "faith" to put a thin veil of ligitamacy on his demand of slavery to his ethos.
And I'm the "bad" guy!
Well, you are. You do tend to forget the parts where the payment will be torment and agony until the end of time.
Ou See? This is exactly what I'm talking about. Ignirance and bigotry, I'll have you know "kind sir" that the vast majority of my contracts have nothing in them about torture until the end of time. That is slander produced to scare people into obedience.
And if a few people do make "evil" choices as you would judge them then why shouldn't they face justice.
That's yet another problem with your side; you want to condemn and judge but lose your resolve when you see the sentence carried out. The sentence YOU decree at that, "I'll send your blackened soul to hell!" I hear from many when I am FORCED to defend myself. Yet seldom do you think about what that means to me. I mean would you judge someone simply for running a legitimate business, a free enterprise and condemn them to hell for what is essentially an acident of birth?
Hmmm yes I can see how people are absolutely dying to sign your contracts. I means what's community service in Erebus? Oh, right, holding mammon's molten gold in your stomach. I believe he has lots of molten gold.
Why send them to the lower planes at all? All people ever focus on is soul contracts, which is a very small part of what we do.
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You should know that's just the tip of the iceberg!Why do you have to give away all of our secrets? :)It involves corkscrews.AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!Anything you can tell us about how succubi want to "destroy your body?"
Warpin' flesh?* Balor Lords turning innocent people into demons directly? Wrecking the health of victims via overindulgence?
*Oh God, just thought of a twist on those "wife arm" jokes made about a certain videogame series reboot. Demons that absorb the flesh and souls of their victims into their amalgamated form where they either mentally and spiritually eventually become one with the demon or are left constantly aware of their situation. Imagine a party confronting a powerful demon with familiar faces all over its body in some sort of horrific H.R. Giger/Miura-ish mish-mash of anatomy that weaves together into a single coherent form...
I really prefer the more nuanced approach to demons and devils over an absolute Blood War. It makes a lot more possible, and it actually makes the bigger bads among them easier to take seriously in some ways. That and I've really fallen in love with the idea of a high ranking devil general with a marilith trophy wife/concubine/bodyguard whose whispered tactics give him/her an unpredictable edge over his rivals.
Or a demon warlord with a devil majordomo who absolutely loves the challenge of managing (and manipulating) the demon's holdings.
*Oh God, just thought of a twist on those "wife arm" jokes made about a certain videogame series reboot. Demons that absorb the flesh and souls of their victims into their amalgamated form where they either mentally and spiritually eventually become one with the demon or are left constantly aware of their situation. Imagine a party confronting a powerful demon with familiar faces all over its body in some sort of horrific H.R. Giger/Miura-ish mish-mash of anatomy that weaves together into a single coherent form...
*YOINK*
My players thank you.
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*Oh God, just thought of a twist on those "wife arm" jokes made about a certain videogame series reboot. Demons that absorb the flesh and souls of their victims into their amalgamated form where they either mentally and spiritually eventually become one with the demon or are left constantly aware of their situation. Imagine a party confronting a powerful demon with familiar faces all over its body in some sort of horrific H.R. Giger/Miura-ish mish-mash of anatomy that weaves together into a single coherent form...
*YOINK*
My players thank you.
Some of their limbs have been woven into the demon's musculature. Some limbs are reduced to useless vestigal limbs. Some are still partially functional. Some parts are mashed together in incongruous ways. One victim's face has a vestigal limb coming out of its stretched-wide mouth. One of the demon's limbs has a victim's head at the end instead of a hand. One leg is comprised of two combined victims meshed together into a sculpture of flesh, like a siamese-twin carytid column constantly holding up half the demon's weight. If the demon has wings, the membranes are all the colors of the skin of its victims. Old tattoos and birthmarks show up there like trophies.
Kill the demon, you free the souls. Don't, and it will only grow in power as it continues to take victims who eventually lose their sense of identity, taking the demon's desires as their own.
And any attack on the demon inflicts pain on its victims. And they will certainly give voice to that pain if possible.
Gotta admit, I always wanted to have demons in my homebrew have an "amalgamation of souls" approach to gaining power and evolving, as opposed to devils turning them into tools and currency. They both would want to keep souls as their own in their own ways though, which still sets them against things like Golarion's daemons.
D&D oldtimer here, and while working on a character from Cheliax, I come across the rather interesting mention of Succubi being the sort to "invite" children from the Prime Material to their birthday masquerades, I was fascinated with the idea, and chose to work it into my Cheliaxan paladin.
However, weirdly enough, the source for this information, being a copy of Kobold Quartery (issue number 22, I think.) gives the indication that the succubi it discusses come from the Nine Hells, not the Abyss.
So I suppose my question is; Do both sides now make use of Succubi? I looked at the Erinyes, and they don't seem particularly "tempting" anymore, having gone back to their roots as the mythical furies, and knowing Devils in general, they would absolutely have someone to tempt on their side, it's in their MO, after all.
And furthermore, is the Bloodwar still on in Golarion's outer planes? To be honest, preferring the D&D cosmology to all others, I just used the classic and stuck it onto the new without really considering the new cosmology, since what I did see seemed to similar, and figured it simpler to merely graft the familiar to it. (That and, well, Golarion deserves a place alongside Krynn, Aber-Toril, Athas, Mystara, Oerth and the rest of the Crystal Spheres far more than this "Points of Light" 4th Edition b&$**!~! does.)
If it was in Kobold, then it was probably from their own setting called Midgard. They have their own planar cosmology (see Dark Roads & Golden Hells) in which there is only heaven and hell, law and chaos. Heaven is a place where all celestials dwell, while hell is a place where all fiends are holed up. They may clash on ideologies ocasionally, but main war is between heaven and hell. Chaos and law do share a kind of quarrelsome love affair. Yummy reading bythe way.
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On the matter of Kobold Quarterly, there's usually a marker up at the top of their articles showing what system the article is primarily geared towards, though most of them have stuff, mostly flavor, that could be useful in other systems.
Pathfinder gets a PF button, 4th Edition if 4, AGE is AGE, and so on.
James wins this thread by being James (and answering questions).
Mikaze wins this thread by creating awesome.
Infernal Contract Broker and Shendalyn Shawn (and Lathiira) win this thread through hilarity.
Todd Stewart wins this thread through careful analysis.
Spanky wi- ... wait, why is someone named "Spanky" talking about a "Moon"?
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Anyway, this thread is surprisingly pretty great and full of a lot of winners.
Carry on, everyone!
James wins this thread by being James (and answering questions).
Mikaze wins this thread by creating awesome.
Infernal Contract Broker and Shendalyn Shawn (and Lathiira) win this thread through hilarity.
Todd Stewart wins this thread through careful analysis.
Spanky wi- ... wait, why is someone named "Spanky" talking about a "Moon"?
()Anyway, this thread is surprisingly pretty great and full of a lot of winners.
Carry on, everyone!
Spanky is Spanky. I would almost call him Chaos Incarnate if it were not an insult to Chaos Incarnate to be associated with Spanky. If you want to learn more about Spanky, read through his old posts...
...if you dare.
After reading (skimming, only) through about ten pages of his posts, all I can say is, "bacon".
Also, Ah, I see. :)
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Devils never really seemed all that devilish to me. They formed great armies and created devilish soldiers in their war against heaven and the demons.
Devils did not tempt mortals. They didn't seem interested in mortals at all. Check their skills. Their skills in diplomacy, intimidate and bluff were pitifully stated compared to their level. Based upon that they were miserable at tempting. They were however, great at wading in and slaughtering.
Even Pathfinder devils are woefully designed. They exist with no real purpose, just more monsters to slay.
I'd be interested to know if you've checked out Book of the Damned I: Princes of Darkness, and if so, if you still feel this way.
The entries in the Bestiary for ALL the fiends is pretty much focused entirely on the combat stuff... a lot of fiends are complex and since the Bestiary's world neutral anyway... the bulk of devilish flavor ended up in Princes of Darkness.
I'll get it and read it and let you know back on here. :)
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It involves corkscrews.AND: To get back to the original thread title... there's some stuff in the works we haven't announced yet that will give you more information about succubi in Golarion. It's a while away still... but stay tuned!Anything you can tell us about how succubi want to "destroy your body?"
In the words of the Great Dolemite in Petey Wheatstraw, the Devil's Son-in-Law,
"If the Devil's runnin' to get there, it must be a happenin' scene!"
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*Oh God, just thought of a twist on those "wife arm" jokes made about a certain videogame series reboot. Demons that absorb the flesh and souls of their victims into their amalgamated form where they either mentally and spiritually eventually become one with the demon or are left constantly aware of their situation. Imagine a party confronting a powerful demon with familiar faces all over its body in some sort of horrific H.R. Giger/Miura-ish mish-mash of anatomy that weaves together into a single coherent form...
*YOINK*
My players thank you.
I assume the freed souls thank you despite the painful release method.
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I assume the freed souls thank you despite the painful release method.
Eventually, I'd figure. It'd be quite the traumatic experience at the very least. Some might be driven mad and need rehabilitation or some other form of healing over time on their proper destined planes.
If the soul hasn't been compromised at the core level by the demon's primary ego, that is.
In that case, their souls might be consigned to the Abyss to either spawn as minor demons or to merge directly into the plane in yet another form of "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream" style torment. THOSE souls could still be saved, but it would take more than just killing a demon to do it. That may require going into the Abyss and retrievingly them bodily/spiritually (or taking the chunk of the plane they became) and purifying them somehow. Or it might just be as difficult as restoring someone that was slain by a hellfire ray and failed their Wisdom save.
So, giving the heroes chances to do heroic things?
No "gotcha, no way to save them :D" tomfoolery and such?
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Succubi as Demons instead of Devils has never, ever made sense. It was one of the stupidest changes I can remember in my gaming history.
I don't see how. Actually, I feel like the succubi are the quintessential demon and the ones that are more alien to the Devil Mindset.
Succubi are driven by passion, and passion alone. they are fickle and mercurial. They don't play well with rules. While many other demons could fill the demon ranks if they allow them to express their destructive tendencies are all about Vain self-satisfation and giving the delusion of affection. They are not out to tempt ... they are out to play. Tempting just seems to get natural for them.
And they are not exactly into the faustian contract thing... they don't need to promise you things. They know that just allowing you to hang up with her is prize enough to give up your life, your soul and your freedom.
The day you send a Succubus to a task is the day you realize she is not a team player at all... she will do what she wants for her amusement. And if that involves breaking hearts and having adoring thralls all the better.
So long as it's not done like the Absorboloth from Doctor Who.