You can use the Agile weapon enhancement in place of Dervish Dance on the weapon you plan on using a lot.
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For optimization play an elf wielding an elven curved blade and pick bladebound. You'll get access to an agile weapon at lvl 5, have tons of extra gold (now you don't need to invest in armor or your weapon), and the arcana loss can be mitigated with feats. Here's a quick build:
Str: 13
Dex: 20
Con: 12
Int: 18
Wis: 8
Cha: 7
Alternatively swap Wis and Str if you don't want power attack. Also put all your ability bonuses into Dex and favored class to hp.
Level 1: Weapon Focus (Elven Curved Blade), Dodge
Level 3:Weapon Finesse
Level 5: Power Attack, Furious Focus
Level 7: Weapon Specialization (Elven Curved Blade)
Level 9: Extra Arcana
Level 11: Greater Weapon Focus (Elven Curved Blade)
By level 10 with generic gear and your blackblade with +1/agile/keen, your stat block looks like:
HP: 73 (8+5 per lvl + 10 CON + 10 Favored Class)
AC: 32 (10 + 4 Mage Armor + 8 Dex + 5 Int + 2 Ring + 2 Nat. + 1 Dodge)
Attack: +17/+10 (+7 BAB, +8 Dex, +1 WF, +1 Magic, -0/2 Power Attack)
Damage: 1d10+17(8 Dex + 2 WS + 6 PA + 1 Magic) with 15-20/x2
Throw in your spells for Nova and you're standing toe to toe with the martial guys. Make sure to always keep a touch attack "charged" when combat is imminent.
CaptainPrizes, I agree dazzling display can be fun and the Alori Swordload is a potent prestege class is a solid one. I would suggest adding the Sword Scion trait from the Kingmaker Player guide, a +1 trait to hit with either a long sword or a Aldori dueling sword.
Kaisc006, an elven curved blade is a two handed weapon and makes it difficult to use all of the abilities of the magus.
Flavor defines you, not mechanics or class name.
I agree with you.
Also if I was going to school to be a Magus I'd probably try to train with the Qadira then as their style is unambiguously the best.
The problem is that weapons and combat styles have flavors. Scimitars are associated with Qadira and/or Sarenrae. The dervish dance feat is even more strongly associated with Qadira and/or Sarenrae. Some people get sick of a steady diet of Qadiran maguses.
You must be referring to PFS play, because otherwise there's nothing about the build that requires any of that.
My new-minted dervish build magus is an air pirate who wields a gunblade. :3
Katana for the win. Be a Tian Elf magus going all slashy on everyone
Human, with Racial Heritage(Kobold) and the Tail Terror feat.
Use a Long Lash Kobold tail attachment with the Agile enchantment.Now you can use all your Magus goodies, attack, and activate Metamagic Rods.
Also, 10ft reach. You can go Razored for 1d8 19–20/×2, but lose reach.
Why does every single one of your builds revolve around that feat?
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Why does every single one of your builds revolve around that feat?Human, with Racial Heritage(Kobold) and the Tail Terror feat.
Use a Long Lash Kobold tail attachment with the Agile enchantment.Now you can use all your Magus goodies, attack, and activate Metamagic Rods.
Also, 10ft reach. You can go Razored for 1d8 19–20/×2, but lose reach.
No, not every build.
See here for latest example build of mine.
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Human, with Racial Heritage(Kobold) and the Tail Terror feat.
Use a Long Lash Kobold tail attachment with the Agile enchantment.Now you can use all your Magus goodies, attack, and activate Metamagic Rods.
Also, 10ft reach. You can go Razored for 1d8 19–20/×2, but lose reach.
Sorry, humans don't have tails. Regardless of the racial heritage feat.
I'm pretty sure by RAW it doesn't work.
Tail Terror (Combat, Kobold)
You have strengthened your tail enough to make slap attacks with it.Prerequisites: Base attack bonus +1, kobold.
Benefit: You can make a tail slap attack with your tail. This is a secondary natural attack that deals 1d4 points of bludgeoning damage. Furthermore, you can augment your tail slap attack with a kobold tail attachment. For the purpose of weapon feats, you are considered proficient with all kobold tail attachments.
A fighter can take metamagic feats just fine if he wants, but that doesn't let him cast spells.
You could take this feat just fine, but you wouldn't have a tail to augment.
RAI, it doesn't work either :p Racial Heritage doesn't give you the body of the creature, so things that rely on physiological aspects of that body won't work.
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Some real world humans have tails. See example here.
It is not a stretch to have a human with the Racial Heritage(Kobold) to have a slightly more pronounced tail.
The Tail Terror feat grants them a tail attack.
RAW, it works fine.
If you are uncomfortable with it, houserule it out in your games.
It's my understanding that the (kobold) at the end of the name indicates you must be a kobold to take the feat, i.e. it's a racial feat.
RAW anyway.
The Tail Terror feat grants them a tail attack.
RAW, it works fine.
If you are uncomfortable with it, houserule it out in your games.
No, it isn't even RAW. The racial heritage feat doesn't grant you a tail (or any physical changes) so no, you don't get tail attacks.
This isn't rocket surgery:
-Racial Heritage makes you count as a Kobold for feats.
-Tail Terror has the prereqs of BAB+1 and Kobold.
-Racial Heritage satisfies the Kobold requirement.
Ergo, yes a Human with both feats can have a tail. It's a two feat investment and it satisfies all RAW requirements, don't try to parse the feat fluff descriptions.
The whole point of the Racial Heritage feat is to make you more than Human.
This isn't rocket surgery:
-Racial Heritage makes you count as a Kobold for feats.
-Tail Terror has the prereqs of BAB+1 and Kobold.
-Racial Heritage satisfies the Kobold requirement.Ergo, yes a Human with both feats can have a tail. It's a two feat investment and it satisfies all RAW requirements, don't try to parse the feat fluff descriptions.
The whole point of the Racial Heritage feat is to make you more than Human.
Benefit: Choose another humanoid race. You count as both human and that race for any effects related to race. For example, if you choose dwarf, you are considered both a human and a dwarf for the purpose of taking traits, feats, how spells and magic items affect you, and so on.
Don't see anything about growing a tail...Just effects that relate to that race. I would say no.
FAQ?
This isn't rocket surgery:
-Racial Heritage makes you count as a Kobold for feats.
-Tail Terror has the prereqs of BAB+1 and Kobold.
-Racial Heritage satisfies the Kobold requirement.Ergo, yes a Human with both feats can have a tail. It's a two feat investment and it satisfies all RAW requirements, don't try to parse the feat fluff descriptions.
The whole point of the Racial Heritage feat is to make you more than Human.
Benefit: Choose another humanoid race. You count as both human and that race for any effects related to race. For example, if you choose dwarf, you are considered both a human and a dwarf for the purpose of taking traits, feats, how spells and magic items affect you, and so on.
Don't see anything about growing a tail...Just effects that relate to that race. I would say no.
FAQ?
It clearly states that you can use it to meet racial feats. It's the Tail Terror feat that grants the attack with a tail, not being a Kobold.
A Kolbold without the feat has a tail but cannot attack with it. With TT, he can attack with it. A Human with both feats gets a tail attack, rationalize that however you want but it is RAW and within the RAI.
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Racial Heritage assumes that you have blood of other humanoid race, not their shape or anything else. Human with Racial Heritage doesn't gain any additional limbs per it.
Beside that, you can take that feat chain, but it won't do you any good without tail for making actual attacks.
This my interpretation.
I suggest you make special thread for this, you are killing OPs thread as it is.
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This isn't rocket surgery:
-Racial Heritage makes you count as a Kobold for feats.
-Tail Terror has the prereqs of BAB+1 and Kobold.
-Racial Heritage satisfies the Kobold requirement.Ergo, yes a Human with both feats can have a tail. It's a two feat investment and it satisfies all RAW requirements, don't try to parse the feat fluff descriptions.
The whole point of the Racial Heritage feat is to make you more than Human.
Benefit: Choose another humanoid race. You count as both human and that race for any effects related to race. For example, if you choose dwarf, you are considered both a human and a dwarf for the purpose of taking traits, feats, how spells and magic items affect you, and so on.
Don't see anything about growing a tail...Just effects that relate to that race. I would say no.
FAQ?It clearly states that you can use it to meet racial feats. It's the Tail Terror feat that grants the attack with a tail, not being a Kobold.
A Kolbold without the feat has a tail but cannot attack with it. With TT, he can attack with it. A Human with both feats gets a tail attack, rationalize that however you want but it is RAW and within the RAI.
Almost every other humanoid racial feat has the racial features that it relies upon listed as a prerequisite so that people without that feature can't pick it up and waste a feat slot. In this case, there is no "tail" racial ability, so that safety net is removed.
So you're more than welcome to pick up this chain of feats, but without an actual tail, they're worthless. Now, it's certainly possible to acquire such an appendage; there's not exactly a shortage of polymorph effects in Pathfinder (or on the Magus spell list, for that matter). Just cast Alter Self, find a tailed humanoid, and call it a day.
human wants a tail attack? fine. the tail terror feat gives him one. it's really no different from an alchemist using gene splicing to gain a third arm.