Natural Weapons and Cleave

[Donnovin]

I'm sure its been asked. But I have an Animal Companion with Bite and 2 claw attacks. Can you use Cleave and Greater Cleave ect with these attacks? The bite makes no sense. But on the two swips with claws would you be able to pull it off? Unarmed I understand you can not..but wondering on the natural weapons for my companion. Thank you for any info. Also can the feat be used on two attacks in the same round. I want to make sure I get all this info for the GM.

[concerro]

Yes he can use it. You can also do it unarmed, and with any other bludgeoning weapon. Cleave is a standard action so you have to declare its use before making the attack. In short you make one attack. If that attack hits you use the same weapon for the second attack, and that is is. For cleave you just keep making attacks with the same weapon.

[Quatar]

I don't see why it shouldn't work with natural attacks or unarmed strike.

However using Cleave or Great Cleave is a special standard action. It's not an attack action and can't be used in a full-attack.
So no, if you want to use Cleave, you pick one weapon and do one attack with it (plus cleave followups), thats it.

[StealthElite]

If you have a t-rex, can it cleave/great cleave and or whirlwind attack with a bite attack?

Or should it be considered a slam attack for the extra attack as if it slammed its head into the enemy next to the one it bit?

[concerro]

It uses the listed attack which is a bite for the T-Rex.

[Quatar]

Yes, both of those work with bite attacks just as well
How you describe it is up to you, do the headslamming if you like, but it uses the stats of the bite attack

[Finlanderboy]

I love the idea of the T-Rexusing cleave to bite throughsomeone and into someone else.

[StealthElite]

It would be awkwardly awesome.

Im gonna have to have a half orc barbarian great cleave a mob of enemies with a bite attack and lunge

[Dennis Baker]

It works fine with natural weapons, though generally creatures have feats that make sense to their nature, like T-Rex is very crit focused.

[Gauss]

Donnovin, the problem you are running into is the concept vs the mechanics.

I think that most people's concept of Cleave is the idea of swinging a weapon and going through one person into the other. For this concept most people probably think of a sharp slashing weapon. Some people can conceive of a blunt weapon bouncing through enemies to do the same thing.

This concept breaks down when used with some weapons such as piercing weapons and some natural weapons.

But, this is a game where concept and mechanics often clash. This is such a case.

In this case the mechanics mean that regardless of the type or style of melee weapon used a person can cleave his way through his enemies.

- Gauss

[Oric Sarund]

I realize I'm resurrecting an old thread, but, does a Werewolf's bite attack cause the curse of lycanthropy if cleaving?