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+2 Enhancement to Shield AC --> +2 non-magical Shield AC = Does not carry over, because the Shield AC is non-magical.

so when you get a +2 enchantement to a buckler its not a magical enchantment? You have to take it to a caster to get it done.


so you would still not get the +2 magical enchantment when shifted?


so basically "wild" on it (not cheap) and be done with it.


hopefully that gets fixed. Your natural armor is there to offset the non magical AC that you lose.


Armor bonus (enhancement)

Bonus squared x 1,000 gp

example +1 chainmail

The creator also needs a fairly quiet, comfortable, and well-lit place in which to work. Any place suitable for preparing spells is suitable for making items
The caster can work for up to 8 hours each day


I get a buckler..go to a mage to get a +2 enchantment on it..its magical.


if you get a +2 AC added to a shield thats magical correct? and applies directly to you.


I mean I've read it..just doesnt make sense to me.


the ring and amulet would be N/A as well the way the polymorph reads.


so since the shield doesnt exist when you shift it cant have an enchantment...but an amulet and ring also merge and are no longer a ring and amulet but the enchantment stands. That correct?


lol..ok so theres no real answer why. If its a magical enchantment and it works when you shift..shouldnt matter if its on a weapon shield ring belt, coin, helmet, goggles ect. The actual armor bonus is gone I get that..but the enchantment should stay just like every other item.


that makes no sense either...since its not a shield you lose the +2 magical enhancement...ok when you shift its no longer a ring..its no longer an amulet no longer a belt, it becomes part of you, melds in your body. Yet those magical enchantments continue to work.


that makes no sense to me at all. So the enchantment is dependent on what item it is put on. I get that say chainmail which I think gives 5 armor wont apply when you shift. but chainmail +1 I would think would transfer over the +1 when you shift since thats the magical enhancement on the item.


armor and shield bonuses are magical..you have to have a +2 added to the item.


so a ring or an amulet or a belt would work just fine..but because its a shield it wont apply?


barding works if you are going to just use that one form.


yet a ring of protection will continue to work correct? Thats the way I read it if its a constant effect it works. Thats why I dont understand why the additional protection wouldnt apply.


my druid has a buckler that is +2 I was wondering if the +2 would carry over when he shifts to another form. I know that regular armor doesnt add additional protection. Thanks for any info on the rules.


Just wondering how DMs handle skills with animals. I have an ape and at my level he gets 6 skill points. Extremely low. Do they get any just inherit abilities?
acrobatics,climb,intimidate,Perception

I cant imagine my ape needing to climb up a rock wall and cant do it because he has like a 3 in climb, or needs to jump 10 feet and falls to his death because of his 2 in acrobatics.
the frail wizard out climbs my ape. lol

Any info or suggestions ect would be appreciated. Thanks.


I've been told for my 5th level character my max wisdom can be only 21. I'm trying to find where the GM got this from. Can someone refer this rule to me and tell me where on the site it is located. Thank you. Just amazes me if you actually get 18+2 for racial+1 for level 5 you cant have it...


HH??


LOL burn 35 K...only lvl 5...that isnt happening...so armor is good..just SOL on shield...just hope you guess right LOL


Im sure this has been brought up before. But I'm having a hard time at a door waiting to open it..see if theres a fight. Cast mage armor and shield ..open the door. No one in there and 2 wasted spells. Is there any way to make this swift actions or any feats that would make these such? Just looking for some ideas. Thanks for any help


any other feats...3rd party ect?.. Any tricks or good spells you would suggest as well?


and from what I understand... a wand can only have a max spell level of 4? So theres no way to make a wand with a level 5 ect spell? Just wondering if theres a way around this or if Im missing something.


Skills: For each skill in which either the master or the familiar has ranks, use either the normal skill ranks for an animal of that type or the master's skill ranks, whichever is better. In either case, the familiar uses its own ability modifiers. Regardless of a familiar's total skill modifiers, some skills may remain beyond the familiar's ability to use. Familiars treat Acrobatics, Climb, Fly, Perception, Stealth, and Swim as class skills.

Seems like they get your skills and visa versa...


battlefield control..and a blaster. Basically anything I can find on the d20pfsrd website I can use.

on top of that...Im kinda liking the flavor of a improved familiar..a sprite ..since its so tiny would there be a problem with it using a wand ect? It does seem that a familiar doesnt really scale with your wizard..would be nice if they got a new spell every once in awhile or something along those lines.

And yes im going human..cant pass up a free feat.


Ok we have a group going we are at level 5 and the guy that was playing the wizard decided he didnt want to play it. I'm debating on filling this role (right now playing a druid). I would like to know some good feats to take. We are able to use core and 3rd party content. If you have any other suggestions, spell combos, tricks, anything that can help me shine since I know little about playing a wizard. (always seemed to squishy). Thank you for any and all help!


it sucks that it takes up one spell level higher..but I guess you have to have some kind of trade off for a free trip.


fairly old post but I have a question on this..on the feat it says

make a trip check against the target, using your caster level plus your casting ability score bonus (Wisdom for clerics, Intelligence for wizards, and so on).

so you have a int bonus of 5 and a level 6 character..they only have to have 11 on CMD? or is that added on to your CMB number so maybe an 18 to defend? That should be no problem at all to get past since most CMD is going be at least 18-19 or higher.

Am I missing something here? Seems like a huge waste of a feat.


wow thats truly horrible.


if thats how wild shape works that seems like its pretty horrible compared to 3.5. Not many druids will have a high strength. so you'll end up with maybe a 14 after you transform? Seems like the nerfed the hell out of that ability. Makes it almost worthless. Then large you'd have an 16...not horrible...but compared to most large creatures pretty weak and your companion gets a +8 when upgrading to a large creature. I put a 12 on strength because from what I understood..and maybe thats just they way it was before.. you took on the physical tributes of the animal you changed into. Just bumping up by 2 each time doesnt make sense to me.


question I have is when I wild shape..it seems (and Im happy about it) that my ape animal compainion is actually better then I am due to the base stats table that they use to level up. Am I missing something here?

I'm level 6 with an ape
when I wild shape I just get the base stats correct? I think I'd go polar bear just to get close to what my companion has. (we have no real tank so hes filling in unfortuately)

Can you read a scroll when using Natural Spell

it states:
You can also use any material components or focuses you possess, even if such items are melded within your current form. This feat does not permit the use of magic items while you are in a form that could not ordinarily use them, and you do not gain the ability to speak while using wild shape.

and you keep all your mental stats...So you could cast off a scroll as well? or no?


another question I have is when I wild shape..it seems (and Im happy about it) that my ape animal compainion is actually better then I am due to the base stats table that they use to level up. Am I missing something here?

I'm level 6 with an ape
when I wild shape I just get the base stats correct? I think I'd go polar bear just to get close to what my companion has. (we have no real tank so hes filling in unfortuately)


Im sorry I just came back to this. Leap Attack was 3.5


I thought this was a pretty good spell. But since concentrating takes your action, not so great. You can move and thats about it. 3d6 is pretty weak damage. Am I missing something here? Is there some combo of spells or feats that make this really worth using. I know in 3.5 there was Swift Concentration which would allow you to cast another spell and keep this going. Seems that been thrown out the window for pathfinder. What am I missing? Thank you for any info. Im pretty new to a druid.


ok fair enough...thanks


gives you +1 caster level. If I am a level 5 druid and I have one lvl 3 spells...would that give me access to summon natures ally 4 animals? I know that if you were doing a damage spell that has d6 per lvl you get an extra d6 due to the stone. Just wondering if this would also be the case in a sell like summon natures ally. Thanks for any info.


so the way it would normally work is you would do your leap attack with the bonus then take your additional attacks at the normal damage I would assume?


I have a companion that has power attack and leap attack. I was wondering if it seems reasonable on his jump attack to come down with both hands hitting with them laced together or just in two fists..doesnt really matter. But that counting as a two-handed attack and using up his two claw attacks.

So would I be able to use the power attack and leap attack together in this way? Thank you for any information on this.


I have a companion that has power attack and leap attack. I was wondering if it seems reasonable on his jump attack to come down with both hands hitting with them laced together or just in two fists..doesnt really matter. But that counting as a two-handed attack and using up his two claw attacks.

So would I be able to use the power attack and leap attack together in this way? Thank you for any information on this.


I'm sure its been asked. But I have an Animal Companion with Bite and 2 claw attacks. Can you use Cleave and Greater Cleave ect with these attacks? The bite makes no sense. But on the two swips with claws would you be able to pull it off? Unarmed I understand you can not..but wondering on the natural weapons for my companion. Thank you for any info. Also can the feat be used on two attacks in the same round. I want to make sure I get all this info for the GM.


ok so the wyvern would still get a bite and a claw attack? and we both take the penalties? What is the point of even grappling that seems ..well lack of a better work just ..dumb. My thought is...you could grapple it..couldnt claw..couldnt move..couldnt bite because it cant really lunge foward..could bite the ape unless he was grabbing it from behind. Explain what is the point?


I have a druid with a Large Ape for a companion. We were fighting a wyvern and I wanted to grapple it. The question is would that stop the wyvern from being able to attack? Would it get its claw and bite attacks at all? I'm just rather confused on how to work it with monsters. Say you have a monster with 6 legs gets 4 claw attacks and one bite...could you really grapple and stop all those attacks? What are the penalties or bonuses for the one being grappled? Thank you for any and all info on this!


but as a rogue his stealth is very high 18 dex..bonuses as class skill ect ect..so like I said 25 average rolls really. So perception doesnt always cut it.


I'm sure this has been ask a hundred times in a hundred diffrent ways but I need some clarification. Rogue in the party has a stealth skill of say 14ish I think...its insane usually rolling around 25 so nothing ever sees him. Everywhere he moves...and I mean everywhere he uses stealth. Since they cant detect with perception he can get behind and sneak attack. The short of this is...how is this dealt with?


ok how did you start out with a large Ape? From the animal choices it show Medium with Str 13


thats a tough call...have more spells or basically a second character to do more damage with...Guessing thats going to come down to a persons play style and what they like.


man that adds a lot more spells...thats tempting..but then again +8 upgrade to str to my cat in a few levels isnt anything to sneeze at either.

Full Name

Thadeus Volus Maximus III

Race

HP: 8/8, NL: 0 | AC: 13/13/10, CMD: 11 | F +0, R +5, W +3 | Per:-1 (Darkvision 60 ft.), Init: +3 | Spells: 1st - 3/2

About Thadeus Volus Maximus III

Stats:

Thadeus Volus Maximus III
Male half-orc bard 1
CG Medium humanoid (human, orc)
Init +3; Senses Perception -1
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Defense
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AC 13, touch 13, flat-footed 10 (+3 Dex)
hp 8 (1d8)
Fort +0, Ref +5, Will +3
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Offense
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Speed 30 ft.
Special Attacks bardic performance 6 rounds/day (countersong, distraction, fascinate [DC 12], inspire courage +1)
Bard Spells Known (CL 1st; concentration +3)
. . 1st (2/day)—cure light wounds, vanish[APG] (DC 13)
. . 0 (at will)—mage hand, mending, prestidigitation, summon instrument
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Statistics
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Str 7, Dex 16, Con 11, Int 18, Wis 8, Cha 14
Base Atk +0; CMB +3; CMD 11
Feats Agile Maneuvers, Iron Will
Traits cultivated (any city), magical knack, rising star
Skills Bluff +3, Craft (bookbinding) +8, Craft (calligraphy) +8, Craft (painting) +8, Intimidate +4, Knowledge (arcana) +9, Knowledge (dungeoneering) +5, Knowledge (engineering) +5, Knowledge (geography) +5, Knowledge (history) +9, Knowledge (local) +9, Knowledge (nature) +5, Knowledge (nobility) +9, Knowledge (planes) +5, Knowledge (religion) +5, Linguistics +8, Perform (comedy) +6, Perform (dance) +6, Perform (sing) +6, Perform (string instruments) +7, Profession (scribe) +3, Sense Motive +0, Sleight of Hand +7, Stealth +7; Racial Modifiers +2 Intimidate
Languages Azlanti, Celestial, Common, Draconic, Elven, Orc, Sylvan, Thassilonian
SQ bardic knowledge +1, finesse weapon attack attribute, forgetful, orc blood
Other Gear courtier's outfit (2), jewelry[UE], silver holy symbol of Shelyn, spell component pouch, spellbook
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Special Abilities
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Agile Maneuvers Use DEX instead of STR for CMB
Bardic Knowledge +1 (Ex) Add +1 to all knowledge skill checks.
Bardic Performance (standard action, 6 rounds/day) Your performances can create magical effects.
Finesse Weapon Attack Attribute Finesse weapons use on attack rolls.
Forgetful DC 10 Wis check to avoid leaving something behind somewhere you've been over an hour.
Orc Blood Half-orcs count as both humans and orcs for any effect related to race.

Background Cliffnotes:

- Fifth-generation half-orc Taldan.
- Comes from a well-to-do family, well, well to do for half-orcs.
- Spent his childhood sneaking into art galleries, studios, practice halls, libraries, and anywhere else that he could either learn something or see some grand piece of art.
- Married a young noblewoman who is a rising star in the Taldane music and theatre scenes.
- Has a successful career as a scribe and calligrapher.
- Loves books.
- Loves learning new skills.
- Loves his wife and children. (2 sons, five daughters, two of the latter being twins.)
- His bumbling absentmindedness hides his razor-sharp wit and a practiced talent for mockery.

Backstory:

For nearly five generations, Thadeus' family has lived in Oppara. Unlike many half-orcs, the Maximus family has found a measure of comfort and wealth thanks to their talents in theatre, music, and the arts. Still, they are half-orcs in Taldan society. Many of their patrons have ignored the talents and hard work members of the family had put in, claiming that it was only their generosity that has allowed the family to flourish.

Thadeus was born with an innate curiosity that often got him into trouble as a youngster. He would sneak into libraries, studios, galleries, theatres, and dozens of other places he really shouldn't be to watch, listen and learn. It was during this time that Thadeus found his first love, books. He was apprenticed to a scribe in the hopes he would, somehow, avoid getting into more trouble. Sadly for those hopes, Thadeus had a sharp tongue and wit that was just as capable at getting him into trouble. He completed his apprenticeship, but the old codger that had been his master wanted nothing more to do with the fiesty young man.

The next few years saw Thadeus bounce from job to job, learning and honing new skills all the while. Around the time of his twentieth birthday, he calmed and settled into a comfortable living as a scribe and bookbinder specializing in custom tomes the printing houses could or would not make. When the light waned and the laterns were lit, however, he made his way to playhouses where he played fools and rapier-tongued servants when not filling in for the bass singer or playing among the orchestras.

Shortly after turning thirty, he found his greatest love, Aelia Plinia Oraninia Volus. The charming girl was a fast rising star in a family noted for their connections to the arts and the church of Shelyn. At first, many worried that Thadeus would cause a scandal by incensing the young actress, but she proved to be of sterner stuff and teased Thadeus right back. From the battle of wits, friendship blossomed. Shortly after the pair did cause a scandal when they eloped. Despite their detractors saying the marriage would never last, they have been happily married for eighteen years.

In those eighteen years, Aelia has become a popular and highly sought actress, performing in some of the most prestigious venues in Taldor. Thadeus, meanwhile, has seen a steady stream of work as a scribe and fine bookmaker, but it is his paintings that have gained him some recognition of his own in the high circles of society. Many critics claim that it is thanks to Aelia that he has his success, only to find themselves at a loss for words when Thadeus heartily agrees with them.

Aelia and Thadeus have seven children, two sons and five daughters. While the two boys take after their father, with long limbs and thin frames, the girls take after their mother, often being compared to pixies or fairies. Unlike their father, whose skin, tusks, and ears reveal his non-human roots, the children pass for human, save a couple of pairs of golden eyes and some too large and pointy canines.

Thadeus'Children:

Thadeus Volus Maximus IV - Age: 17
The eldest of the children and the one most like their father, Thadeus or Teddy, as he is known to his friends and family, is an apprenticing scribe and scholar well on his way to earning a scholarship to one of the wizarding academies around the Inner Sea. His sense of humor tends to the dry side of things and while he rarely cracks more than a grin in person, his writting is full of wry humor.

Astella and Aluna - Age: 16
Twin sisters and the most social of the bunch, they are also avid artists and musicians seemingly possessing a divine talent for mastering any instrument they pick up or any medium they try. They are bright and cheerful with a love of whimsy and a delight for new stories. They can both be a bit flighty at times, but neither will leave the other, or any family, in the lurch.

Isolda - Age: 13
Isolda is the most adventurous of the children, and is drawn more to tales that take place in the wilds than the cities. She currently is nursing a broken leg after falling from a tree, and hating being cooped up indoors. Headstrong and self-reliant, she's proving to be a handful to raise from a child into a young woman.

Dalen - Age: 10
A quiet and bookish sort, Dalen is often a target for his younger sister's bullying. He is often found in Thadeus' library reading about all sorts of topics from magic to sailing. He has an ear for music and has already composed a few pieces on the piano.

Caitrina - Age: 8
The terror of the younger children, Caitrina is a brat that is in trouble more often than not. When not picking on Dalen, she will switch to Terabella or make mischief for one of her elder siblings and even her parents. While she hasn't driven Thadeus crazy, it's not from lack of trying.

Terabella - Age: 5
Almost as shy as Dalen, Terabella is sometimes overlooked by others. She is always with one of her stuffed animals that she's named after different instruments. Her current favorite is Basson, a long, furry critter with short legs that has stumped all of Thadeus' attempts to identify it.


Knowledge(Local) DC 10:

Thadeus is a scribe by day and a performer by night. He lives in a townhouse with the ground floor converted into his shop.

Aelia is an actress with ties to money. Her family is known for its support of the Shelynite clergy.


Knowledge(Noble) DC 15:

Aelia, Thadeus' wife, is a scion of a minor noble house, the Oraninias. If primogenture is repealed, then Aelia will become the heir to her father's title of Baron.

Knowledge(Local) DC 15:

Thadeus is a bookmaker and part-time scholar. His work has slowly been gaining traction among nobles seeking to make their collections stand out as printing technologies advance and become more common.

Knowledge(Local or Noble) DC 20:

It was only recently that Baron Oraninia recognized Aelia's marriage to Thadeus. Up until the birth of their seventh child, Baron Oraninia refused to even acknowledge Thadeus' existance. It wasn't until then and a bilstering rebuke from his daughter after yet another failed attempt to set her up with someone of "proper breeding" that he finally did.

knowledge(Local or Noble) DC 25:

Those that want to stay on Aelia's good side have learned that involves treating Thadeus as an equal, rather than a servant. There have been several instances of someone making the mistake of talking down to him at events and functions, and if Thadeus doesn't politely cut them off at the knees, then Aelia certainly will.

What Thadeus Knows about the others:

Kunala
A dancer and instructor at Archirel Destrie dancing school. Popular years ago with his partner and sister Padmavati. He has a reputation of being a fop and hedonist.

Edelmira
?? Not sure what an 11 will get me.

Cassandra
With a 26, Thadeus probably knows the highlights of her background, though not the specifics.

Nicolette
Knowledge Local DC5 (Easy): This lady. You know you've seen her before. She holds a highly esteemed relationship to the Grand Prince. Whoever she is, she is often seen up there with the family during those grand events, and she surely looks related to Princess Eutropia. Perhaps a family member?
Some say they saw this lady in a public duel once. She dresses like a military cadet with a nice breastplate, so she must be part of the military.

It is a custom to celebrate the Grand Prince's birthday, and each year, a different person gets up and speaks about how good he is. You think you've seen her say some words of kindness about him. Whoever she is, she surely certainly is a royal. Unlike many people in the royal family, you swear you've seen her smile during such grand events too.

Knowledge Local DC10 (Common): This woman's name is Nicolette Yardley. You definitely think she's a member of the royal family. You believe that she lives on the grounds of the palaces and estates.

Knowledge Local DC15 (Uncommon):
Nicolette is the daughter of the sister of the king, and by law, she holds no claim to the throne currently. Some say she is charitable, giving to the poor at times when she travels through the city. Some people have referred to her as the “Lioness”. This is a title some have given her because she’s someone who stands for the weak. You also know that some nobles don't like her for that very reason.

There have been some squabbles with nobles in her past due to her views, and similar to the princess, Nicolette isn't afraid to offer steel for those who treat her less than human. All in all, Nicolette is not confrontational and has been busy focusing on serving her uncle and the princess in their endeavors. Now completed with her graduation, her social reform stances and supported views of laws are projected to mirror the princess's views. At times, she has been seen pressing for the education of the masses and unity.

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Knowledge Nobility DC5 (Easy): Duchess Nicolette Yardley is part of the royal family. Her presence is often seen when the Grand Prince addresses the nation.

Knowledge Nobility DC10 (Common): Nicolette's mother is the Grand Prince Stavian III's sister, Duchess Bruellia Yardley. Nicolette's father, Count Sargentis Yardley was, at one point, set by the Grand Prince over a county and was highly connected to the Stavian family through many ties. He passed away at the hands of assassins when Nicolette was just a baby. It is said that Nicolette's mother suffers most recently from mental illness and has been bed-ridden for a few years now.

With primogeniture in effect, Nicolette holds no claim to the throne. As such, she still is under the honorary noble title of her father. To properly address her or her mother (if she were somehow out in society) would be "Duchess" or "your grace". With the primogeniture ended, Nicolette's position and claim would all change. If Princess Eutropia's father dies, the Princess comes into power, as long as she never marries or has children, Nicolette is the heir apparent.

Some nobles who are resistant to Princess Eutropia's views are resistant to Nicolette as well. Both she and the Princess are very close in friendship as well as political views.

Knowledge Nobility DC15 (Uncommon): Some 19 years ago, there was a call for prayers to go up to the gods in the nation for the Grand Prince's niece. She was supposedly kidnapped and taken away for a time. The report was kept mostly close to the chest, but you believe it was Nicolette. Word spread that she was recovered and was once again feeling healthy after being starved. For a time, she was rarely seen and hidden from viewings. After a few month’s time, she was once again revealed.

Some saboteurs have attempted to cause division between the Princess and Nicolette. These attempts failed completely.

Knowledge Nobility DC20 (Rare): While not much is known about Nicolette's political activities outside of the shadow of her cousin, there is a rumor that Nicolette loves to help the poor. Some attempts on her life have been in connection with this fact, although most are in relation due to the various activities and laws put in place by her uncle. Fortunately, the Lion's keep a close eye on the royal family concerning such back-alley talk, and most threats are dealt with before they become a realized problem.

Princess Eutropia occasionally will poke fun at her cousin Nicolette for not being skilled enough with a blade. It is all in good humor between them and some very few have seen the two of them spar together; with Nicolette often losing. It is clear that it motivated Nicolette to join the military to better herself in this aspect of her character. Having exited the service, Nicolette now utilizes a scorpion whip and buckler in her fighting.