wielding 2 handed larger than M weapons


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Ok i have read the older posts made about wielding larger weapons. But!

Me and my group are about to start the "rise of the runelords ani adition) and it seemed to hold alot of larger creatures and giants from the info in the guide we got.
I especialy made a Barbarian with the Titan mauler archtype.

I stil dont get what is or isnt possible with the abilety "massive weapons" in my opinion i dont see a problem with wielding a 2 handed large weapon at lvl 3 (considering i can find/make one) but some people are saying that this aint possible.

it gets even cooler if you wield a large greatsword and you use your lvl 14 abilety or a sorcerer casts enlarge person you go from (large greatswor)3d6 to ?? 3d8 or 4d6 (huge greatsword??)

the gist of it all is i just want an awsome sword to weild towering over myself and do masive damage, i have 18 STR at lvl 1 to begin with and with rage it climbs tot 22 at lvl 1 considering a +2 STR belt and beter rage abiletys later on i think it should roleplay whise be verry plauseble. maybe having the sword adjusted to my hands grip wise.

give me your thoughts pleas :-)

Grand Lodge

No, the archetype gives you no such ability.

The archetype does nothing to decrease the amount of hands needed to wield a larger weapons.

You can wield a normal sized greatsword with one hand, but you will never be able to wield a large sized greatsword.


blackbloodtroll wrote:

No, the archetype gives you no such ability.

The archetype does nothing to decrease the amount of hands needed to wield a larger weapons.

You can wield a normal sized greatsword with one hand, but you will never be able to wield a large sized greatsword.

Ok i got it i read more about the subject now, but i could dual wield a greatsword with a light large shortsword?

if i got the proficientcy bastardsword feat

is there anyone who did the math what would be the most damage you could do with this archtype numericly? not considering ATK penaltys?

just considert i can actualy wield a greatsword in 1 hand and a bastard sword in the other if i have the feat for it cant I ? would be nice 2d6 and 1d8 at lvl 3 :-)

or is it possible to wield 2 large sized longswords as a guide by kcmorris sugests


The penalties to your attack rolls will really hurt your DPR. A weapon's base damage is not really all that important. As an example kukri's which only do 1d4 are the best TWF weapons for doing damage, assuming you don't go into exotic weapons.


wraithstrike wrote:
The penalties to your attack rolls will really hurt your DPR. A weapon's base damage is not really all that important. As an example kukri's which only do 1d4 are the best TWF weapons for doing damage, assuming you don't go into exotic weapons.

dont forget a barbarian can climb up to high str ranges gaining alot of bonus to ATK

a STR modifier of +6 at lvl 1 while raging....


Darkflame wrote:
wraithstrike wrote:
The penalties to your attack rolls will really hurt your DPR. A weapon's base damage is not really all that important. As an example kukri's which only do 1d4 are the best TWF weapons for doing damage, assuming you don't go into exotic weapons.

dont forget a barbarian can climb up to high str ranges gaining alot of bonus to ATK

a STR modifier of +6 at lvl 1 while raging....

I understand, but you are still sacrificing DPR, and quiet a bit of it for flavor. That large short sword will give you less damage than a normal sized short sword.

I am not saying don't do it, but I am saying you will never catch up to the DPR you would be doing with normal sized weapons. That is the only reason I have never dual-weilded scimitars, as much as I want to. The TWF(fighter archtype) even drops the penalties for the off-hand if I do it, and I still never caught up.

Grand Lodge

The Jotungrip ability has no effect on larger weapons.

This is the official errata, and though the original writer of the archetype, intended it to be able to wield larger than normal weapons, it is no longer so.

This was a Developer decision.


the biggest weapon you can wield is a large size bastard sword, which will have its penalties reduced by Titan mauler. you cannot wield it one handed though.


Check out this thread.... http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz4qa7?Titan-Mauler-what-can-and-cant-it-wield

Grand Lodge

Two other threads, linked above. See my previous posts.


I always say this in TM threads: this archetype is a huge case of "not what it says on the tin." See the other threads for specifics, but the short form is that if you think the Titan Mauler can do it after reading the archetype, then it really can't.

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