Using diplomacy faster.

[Doomey]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that there was a way to be able to make diplomacy checks as a move or standard or swift action. Does anybody else remember this or am I just making stuff up in my head?

[Morgen]

The third edition of Dungeons and Dragons had rules for rushed diplomacy, that might be what your thinking of?

[blackbloodtroll]

You can do it, only when making a request.

[phantom1592]

I haven't used diplomacy much... yet. Got a paladin in kingmaker coming that should use it lot...

but I thought that Diplomacy and changing peoples opinions took time... Like a full minute? Maybe more.. and was generally useless in combat rounds.

Is there a benefit to it being a move instead of standard under those circumstances??

It came up quite a bit with the rangers 'Wild Empathy... which works 'like Diplomacy'.

NOT as cool as it sounded at level one... those wild animals are already attacking before we could influence much...

[blackbloodtroll]

Using Diplomacy to influence a creature’s attitude takes 1 minute of continuous interaction.
Diplomacy is generally ineffective in combat and against creatures that intend to harm you or your allies in the immediate future.

[thenovalord]

It is no good against 'baddies'

but useful for the mean hearted guard, awkward civil servant, miserable farmer, etc

[Addicted2Fail]

could always use it to convince the baddies that there is a better target than yourself.

[VRMH]

Wouldn't that be a Bluff check?

[Addicted2Fail]

depends on the situation

[Doomey]

I found the feat I was looking for and it is antagonize but it just uses diplomacy for the check it isn't the actual skill. I was looking for some kind of set up with the betrayer feat that gives you a free attack after you change a creatures disposition to friendly.

[deuxhero]

Just Scale from Faiths of Balance allows you to change attitude by one step as a Swift Action. 50GP but requires someone blow a channel energy use.

[Vellan Shadow]

Signature SKill Diplomacy lets you halve the time with 5 ranks in Diplomacy. With 10 ranks it's 1 round but with a -10. 15 ranks and it's just 1 round

Authoritative Vestments lets you use it as a Swift Action