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I always forget to buy Masterwork Tools. Of the 9 or so character numbers I currently have, one of them has one MW Tool. Oh well.Just as well. Masterwork Tools for Profession Gambling tend to land you in jail....or worse. :)
Actually, they have them in UE now. There's regular MW gambling kit, which is legal, and then a cheating version that gives +4 but has a listed DC for others to notice the cheating.
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None of my Society characters have purchased masterwork tools, but my Living Greyhawk barbarian was proud of his necklace of preserved humanoid thumbs (a masterwork Intimidation tool, effective against the effete, civilized, and unmanly; also likely to get him arrested in some places).
At my tables, I've seen a couple of books presented as masterwork tools ["Oliwert's Bestiary of Ye Demonaic Hordes" for +2 on Knowledge (planes) vs. demons and chaotic evil outsiders; and "Uncouth Customs of the Barbaric North", a Taldan guide to dealing with the Ulfen inhabitants of the Lands of the Linnorm Kings, granting +2 to Diplomacy with those folk].
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The only masterwork tools I have are some gardening shears for my monk's Profession (Gardener) skill, and my ninja's psychic paper (or "Masterwork collection of forged identification papers, from which he chooses one" if you prefer) for Bluff.
For the latter, I think it enhances my roleplaying, because instead of simply telling the thug guarding the door "I need to see your boss," I'm forced to come up with a lie that uses some kind of identification. (Such as "I represent the Lollipop Guild, and I want to discuss a business proposition with your boss.")
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I really like the idea of rare books being used as masterwork tools for certain skill checks. I've always wanted a character to lug a bunch of reference manuals around, and these seem like the right rules to put it into practice.
I'd argue that no masterwork tool invented in Golarion could grant a +2 bonus to Perception (Listen) checks, unless it was a magic item.
I also think that even an academic book about lying wouldn't be able to grant a +2 bonus on Sense Motive checks. So much of that is instinct and not fancy book-learning. Also, lie-detectors aren't around yet.
Ride checks are already covered by the Military Saddle, so no masterwork tool there.
Ultimate Equipment has the 'Anytool' magic item for 250gp, so expect that blob of magic to begin morphing into a range of weird masterwork tools soon.
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You couldn't have a character with an ear cone constantly implanted in their external auditory canal. It'd be stretching belief to use it at the most important listen checks, when a team of four invisible rogues are moving silently up behind the party.
Logistically, an ear cone would be useless for any noise that isn't continuous. In that situation, you could just take 20 to sit and listen.
Also, your cool score would be hit by a -4 penalty, unless you had an elderly character. Then it'd rise by 2.
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Pissing on the floor? Eh? Haven't done that since last week! Eh? Wassat you say? Listen? Speak up sonny, me ears aren't as good as they once were.
*fumbles in equipment to retrieve his Ear Cone of Rare Situational Usefulness*
Okay, folks can take an ear cone, but my view is that it'd just take up room and weight in their inventory section. *old man grumbling*
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Mark's said before that masterwork tools are supposed to be things you have to pull out and use. So an ear cone fits the bill.
Its primary purpose would be to listen at a door.
They actually have an ear trumpet to listen at doors. It lessens the penalty for listening through walls and doors by up to 5.
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where is this from?They actually have an ear trumpet to listen at doors. It lessens the penalty for listening through walls and doors by up to 5.Mark's said before that masterwork tools are supposed to be things you have to pull out and use. So an ear cone fits the bill.
Its primary purpose would be to listen at a door.
UE page 63.
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Because of the fine workmanship required the vestments become faded and useless after 10 Diplomacy checks (I know this is a bit of a fudge, but I couldn’t think of any other way of doing it ‘game mechanically’)
Something like masterwork priestly vestments wouldn't need to "run out", as the vestments' use would be quite situational.
I haven't had the chance to look at UE yet. Is that where they specifically ruled out masterwork Diplomacy tools?
Ok, since it really matters I'll ask it here.
For gencon I will be playing a brand new Level 1 druid.
I had picked up a Masterwork Handle Animal tool for 50 gp.
Is this no longer ok?
Any advice would be great as I really would not like to have to fix it mid con.
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Ok, since it really matters I'll ask it here.
For gencon I will be playing a brand new Level 1 druid.
I had picked up a Masterwork Handle Animal tool for 50 gp.
Is this no longer ok?
Any advice would be great as I really would not like to have to fix it mid con.
The ARG has the training harness under the human section for 10gp. Seems to be a flat +2 handle animal bonus to the animal you get it for.
oh? well thats great. sounds perfect.
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The name needs work. "Would you do if for a Companion Chow?" just doesn't roll off the tongue.Here's one
Companion Chow
** spoiler omitted **
Isn't that why they are really named Scooby Snackstm?
And the masterwork diplomacy tool is the Shaggy Snacktm. Only 10 pieces, but for the perpetually hungry, they provide more than a +2 bonus. ;)
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The name needs work. "Would you do if for a Companion Chow?" just doesn't roll off the tongue.Here's one
Companion Chow
** spoiler omitted **
Isn't that why they are really named Scooby Snackstm?
And the masterwork diplomacy tool is the Shaggy Snacktm. Only 10 pieces, but for the perpetually hungry, they provide more than a +2 bonus. ;)
I don't need Time-Warner banging down my door :P
Aside, saturday when the dog owner failed a handle animal check, I commented the dog's reaction was *scooby laugh*
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pouch of bribing, this pouch contains 10 small pouches of gems each valued at 5gp, drawing and tossing a pouch/handing (move action) provides a +2 bonus on that diplomacy check.
Gems are valuable to basically everyone/thing that you could possibly attempt diplomatic relations. Also if they betray you and you "have" to kill them, you can take it back :D
Alternatively you could make it 5gp and just one use, but I like the idea of making a kit, all of them containing different gems so you're more likely to find a suitable bribe for the bribe-y
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I'm glad for the clarification, but there are so many other things that are game breaking, this is hardly worth talking about. Masterwork tools never unbalanced the game.
We already know about save or die's, haste, higher level summoning, additional words that involve casting spells.
These are a fun discussion topic, because people can be creative :D. The forums have done great work this week, we got the shirt banned. Time to relax and talk about fun stuffs!
I'm glad for the clarification, but there are so many other things that are game breaking, this is hardly worth talking about. Masterwork tools never unbalanced the game.
Yes, we should focus our efforts on important things like banning slightly underpriced potions of Lesser Restoration.
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The ARG has the training harness under the human section for 10gp.Ohh... sounds like something the Paracountess would be interested in!
Asked her if she wanted one once. She replied that I had insulted her when implied that she'd need what she called "A crutch for amateurs."
She then spent the next hour emphasizing her point.
It was worth it though.
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I think unfortunately that the way UE did the masterwork tools has put the individual tools back into custom item territory. Between a flat + (masterwork blacksmithing tools), the options for extra time to use (the pathfinder chronicles for knowledge skills), working for some aspects of the skill but not others (survival kit, footprint book) and depleting charges (healer's kit) there's too many options to know how any masterwork tool would work if it hasn't already been made.
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That would fly with me. It is specific enough and kind of cool.
My main character just picked up a handy haversack and filled it with books... Walking library of a Lore Warden!
2K gp for the haversack, and about 500 gp for the 10 books, one for each of the 10 Knowledge skills.
Won't work for in combat, but useful for when you have time to spend looking things up.
A library, if one is available, would be better, of course, but that is how I would rule it.