In an up coming campaign I'm wanting to play a gobin to provide some comedy and chaos to the adventure. We're a group of six, so I can pick basically any class.
The problem I'm having is I want him to still hold to the idea the writing steals thoughts, but I'm not sold on a combat class either. I really don't want to play the sneaky backstabby type either. Any thoughts?
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vivisection alchemist..... (any goblin is sneaky)
Get backstab and combine all sorts of ridiculous combinations for 'edible' magic.
"..When I leave this rat tail in the sun, then mix it with the guts of this frog I stomped on, and then eat 'em together, I get powers" (insert extract here)
I was looking at the alchemist, but don't they have a notebook of extracts, etc like a wizard?
The urban barbarian sadly doesn't work with my concept - he's pretty feral and not a fan of large urban centers. But a dervish dancing goblin would be pretty funny :P
How about an inquisitor with the memory domain? He could be the thought police who tries to warn all of the dangers of writing? You could "write" on them when using the domain power to steal their knowledge with the level one power and at 8 when you get read minds via detect thoughts you could spin it as well.
Overall some good options there for fun and the usefulness to the party would still be there.
Ninja'd lol
If I was going to go with unarmed I'd probably end up taking the feral gnasher archetype, though.
bites the long shanks ankles - spits - "too boney!"
I like the idea of goblins as comedy relief. I'm mulling over the idea for a dungeon filled with vast numbers of goblins which can be fought, bartered-with, argued-with, or avoided to achieve the end.
I picture goblins much like the movie Gremlins: yes, they're evil, but in a playfully wicked sort of way. They have one-track minds and are easily manipulated, but fearsome in numbers, especially when they've been kicked-around. You could fend off a goblin invasion more easily by promising them pie than by threatening them with fire.
To tempt your GM into allowing the character, I might suggest you give your character lots of Underground Knowledge Lore; he knows things, and ways and people and puzzles that will make him incredibly useful to the party. Maybe he was witness to something that makes him invaluable to keep alive...?
I was looking at the alchemist, but don't they have a notebook of extracts, etc like a wizard?
The urban barbarian sadly doesn't work with my concept - he's pretty feral and not a fan of large urban centers. But a dervish dancing goblin would be pretty funny :P
Don't be bound by archetype themes... take the mechanic and make it fit any theme you like.
Personally I reccomend Urban Barbarian + Invulnerable Rager and flavor it any way you want.
I got it direct from the GM/writer's mouth, that he agreed with me, that the alchemist I played in 'We Be Goblins!' writes his formula book in pictures.
Nice.
Hahahaha out to save the long shanks from the dangers of the scribble! Maybe he uses a brand to write on them? Definitely potential there!
Okay so far I have an urban/savage barbarian at uses dervish dance
A memory inquisitor
And an alchmist pending GM approval
Keep them coming :P
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Yeah the developers have said that goblins use pictograms, kind of like highly violent pulpy comic books to record ingredients and methods of magic.
I love the fire-obsessed alchemist goblin plan, but another idea could be a Goblin cavalier riding a squealing pig (use boar stats) or a disease-ridden stubborn old goblin dog. Instead of full plate, he could wear a bucket on his head and a iron-reinforced barrel as heavy armour.
Make a torch wielding follower of Asmodeus with the firebrand and the burn burn burn feats who likes to set things on fire the mundane way.
Best way to do it would be something that can use spark, so you can always light your torches quick. Perhaps a Druid (LN should be ok for both, druis and worshiping Asmodeus) or some form of oracle.
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Heh. Goblins. Ya I gots a few toons yous mights be able to salvage.
#1 goblin mindchemist bomber. Go with the goblin mindchemist/beastmorph focusing on bombs. Grab targeted bomb admixture, immolation bombs and kirin strike. start focusing on different bomb upgrades. key points; lots of direct target damage, at level 14 you gain a permanent +6 int and +4 wis, as early as level 6 (with monk dips) or 9 (without) you can have bombs that deal d6 +4X int for 2 or 5 rounds respectively. play him as a sneaky guy who tries to hide his vast intellect, has a arsonist streak a mile and a half long and loves trying to get away with blowing things up. Think remote bombs, rocket bombs and anything that makes a big boom.
#2 INFERNO Goblin! go melee focused fire bomber. key points are feral mutagen, fire brand, elemental touch/aura, touch injection with detonate (a favorite) and elemental body (early entry, therefore potionable and eternal). You turn into a raging burning goblin that sets his hands on fire, sets anything around him on fire, sets anything he touches on fire, and can cause people to explode with a touch. At level 16 fire body can be made eternal and you become an elemental! Bonus if you combine touch injection with fire sneeze (and target a mage), detonate, or even beast form to turn someone into a cat. A cat that is on fire mind you... Just please remember to get fireproof equipment...
#3 Aldori Swordlord Goblin: untouchable small little pest that cuts you to ribbons. nuf said
#4 Feral Gnasher Barbarian goblin: grab body bludgeon and giant hide armour. a goblin that can turn huge and grab someone with there teeth and swing them around to beat the stuffing out of those around. Bonus for swinging around an actual giant and squashing those around you to bits!
#5 The EVIL goblin: Ok this one goes a bit out there, but go for the demoniac Prestige class, start as a sorcerer with the daemon bloodline and (if you can, I highly doubt it) add the demon possessed template. You get one truly evil little dude, and role-play him as the funny endearing kind of evil. Color him blue and name him Zorbac!
Shudder... ok back to the ligher side of things, My favorite is #2. The thought of a goblin that literally explodes with fire and destruction, roleplaying the fun he has should be easy. Wanna be really mean, take implant bombs with #1 and pretend to be a "doctor" secretly planting bombs in your teammates when you "heal" them that cause them to explode if they ever die. Serves em right for dieing in the first place mumble mumble mumble
Finally rocket bombs with something like inferno bomb is sweet, 40 ft radius is huge, touch injection is overpowered (and rarely used) beating someone to death with his buddy is funny, an let the world burn!
Hmmm...
The thought of implanting bombs in YOURSELF so that if anyone ever actually kills you (really, not all that hard...) BOOOM!!! take out half the room as your last hurrah! at level 16 add in elixer of life and emerge from the ashes true Phoenix style!
Just remembered this one;
#6 dragon disciple goblin: start off as a weak goblin and turn into a belching flying dragon. It really worked in 3.5, I dunno how well it would work in pathfinder but there you go!
also... add noxious bite to #4 somehow and have fun!
Alchemist needs to write.
Urban/Savage Barbarian with the Dervish Dance feat, or focus on natural attacks and pick up an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists.
For awesome flavor, be a devout follower of Lamashtu.
Why does it matter if they have to write?
Bomber alchemist. "the mad bomber pyromaniac"
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Why does it matter if they have to write?Alchemist needs to write.
Urban/Savage Barbarian with the Dervish Dance feat, or focus on natural attacks and pick up an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists.
For awesome flavor, be a devout follower of Lamashtu.
Most goblins believe writing steals thoughts from your mind.
Most goblins believe writing steals thoughts from your mind.Why does it matter if they have to write?Alchemist needs to write.
Urban/Savage Barbarian with the Dervish Dance feat, or focus on natural attacks and pick up an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists.
For awesome flavor, be a devout follower of Lamashtu.
Indeed, and I wanted to keep the superstitious flavor alive. It should make for some unique role playing :)
I would also like to thank everyone who contributed to this thread, you have given me some great ideas to work with. You are much appreciated!
You could also play that the goblin eats the scroll/spell/parchment to learn how to cast it gastronomically.
Hey wizard buddy, let me borrow your spellbook for a minute... Dont worry, I got alchemical allocation, you can have it back after im done with it! <.< ... >.> ... ^.^
Bomber alchemist. "the mad bomber pyromaniac"
Gobo Alchemists are epic!
Touch injection with detonate. Here boy, shake! And esplode!!!!!Touch injection with beast form. Buddy! your now a cat! Imagine that?
Touch injection with skinsend. You touch somebody, they split, become helpless go to 0 hp, and cannot be healed. You then can easily kill them off, throw a dispelling bomb at the skin, pick up the body and run away with it, or at the very least, they lose half there hp and some action economy. This only costs you 2 level 2 extracts, lasts hours per level, and only requires a touch to cast, and cannot be resisted (it counts as if your target cast it himself)! Needless to say, fun insures...
Implant bombs creates other interesting things.... implant 10-15 inferno bombs inside your partners animal companion, and hope that when he dies, your not around >.>
Touch injection with eruptive postules. COOTIES!!!
Touch injection with gaseous form in a windstorm. Bye! Want to take out the BBEG until later? Just pat him on the shoulder and have him be useless for 10 or so minutes.
Want to get these injections off when you want and not accidentally on that friendly handshake? Wear a flimsy, silk glove costing a few sp and use firebrand. Swift action, your hand is now burning, the glove burns up, and you can get all touchy feely as much as you desire!
I would have to say, the goblin alchemist is probably my favorite class/character combo to play to date. So much you can do, so much you can mess with, so little time!
Edit. I just noticed eyebite as a 6th level extract. Extracts always target you, so with this wouldnt this always target you? Aka you become sickened?
Goblin druid.
get the talk in wild shape feat and lecture folks as a raptor.
bonus points if you cast anthropomorphic animal on your companion first and they hold your leash.
Most goblins believe writing steals thoughts from your mind.Why does it matter if they have to write?Alchemist needs to write.
Urban/Savage Barbarian with the Dervish Dance feat, or focus on natural attacks and pick up an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists.
For awesome flavor, be a devout follower of Lamashtu.
Yeah I know, most do think that. However adventurers aren't most people.
gunslinger, get a medium double hackbut (goblins have a feat to use bigger guns)
There is even a timed explosive thing in some book that reads just like TNT.
The only thing you need to provide yourself is a bottle of 99% alcohol with a scorpion in it and a BIG sombrero.
Yeah I know, most do think that. However adventurers aren't most people.Most goblins believe writing steals thoughts from your mind.Why does it matter if they have to write?Alchemist needs to write.
Urban/Savage Barbarian with the Dervish Dance feat, or focus on natural attacks and pick up an Agile Amulet of Mighty Fists.
For awesome flavor, be a devout follower of Lamashtu.
Becaue I specifically stated that I'd like to retain that for flavor and RP. That should be reason enough ;).
Gunslinger is a "no-go" we already have one in the party and I'd feel like I was stepping on their toes.
Gabo - you have me dying over here boggarting the wizards spell book. Hahahaha! You are welcome to play a goblin at my table anyday :D I think the implant on the fam/companion is simply some of the best shenanigans ever. Can you imagine the look on the other PC's face as their buddy explodes in a giant ball of flame?
BBT - he's mounting the dog to establish "dominance" ;). The real trick is "dominating" a horse....
Best goblin feat, "Roll with it". The party was fleeing from a horde of kobolds and our barbarian half orc thought it would be funny to rage and "punt" the goblin warrior into the pack of them. luckilly, even while prone the horde of kobolds couldn't meet his AC and our inquisitor and wizard cleared out enough of them to allow him to escape. Many laughs were had this encounter.
Wait....
Wait for it....
Did you just call me Gabo?
let me 'borrow' your dog for a bit...
Lol on the plus side ya goblins have so much going for them! Love the little buggers!
@ VDZ, The feat 'roll with it' is pure gold. Altho trying to use acrobatics to move past creatures can be suicidal for most, goblins just run up to them screaming. With the inevitable Aoo the goblin just shrugs and goes for 'flying practice' 20 feet towards the next dude. Dude #2 lines up a shot and gobo jets off on another 'short trip' towards the wizard into a nice headbutt! goblin falls prone, but thats ok, you took monkey style right? Your goblin Mobile Fighter now full attacks that wizard! At level 15 you can take 10 and even take 20 on these checks when needed (your looking at somewhere around 50 damage to not be able to attopass it). Congrats! you are now largely imune to melee and being prone all the time means you are less susceptible to ranged, you still suck against spells, but hey nothing new there! Btw did you know that monkey style allows you to crawl without provoking Aoos? A goblin monk (The horror!) could literally crawl everywhere, while still being the same speed as some others, and there is something about a goblin lying on his back and all others around him cant seem to keep there footing, falling down. Brings combat down to a whole new level :D A goblin laying down next to that big orc and grappling it... interesting pictures come to mind... chokehold being one of them...
Gabo - you have me dying over here boggarting the wizards spell book. Hahahaha! You are welcome to play a goblin at my table anyday :D I think the implant on the fam/companion is simply some of the best shenanigans ever. Can you imagine the look on the other PC's face as their buddy explodes in a giant ball of flame?
try using skinsend on the dog and see how long it takes the party druid to notice the new 'fur coat' you seemed to have acquired. >.>
What? the dog is still living isnt it??Want to sneak into a city? Cast skinsend on a guard, and wear its skin as a cloak. See how long your disguise lasts...
try to be the healer, every time you 'cast cure serious wounds' you actually implant bombs in them. they ever die, they take the rest of the party with them, it turns into a massive cluster fest of exploding bodies.... People will hate you for that one..
take leadership!!! Goblins make great leaders! especially for other (none to bright) goblins! your army of low level, next to useless mooks all have high level bombs inside! nobody touches one of my goblins, unless they shoot him from 50+feet away... corse my goblins all get what they want on threat of explosion...
so many ideas, so little time XS