Elemental Spell + Vampiric Touch?


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I want to combine the metamagic effect Elemental Spell with Vampiric touch. I believe RAW I am good, but have I missed something?

Inserted Elemental Spell for reference:
Elemental Spell

You can manipulate the elemental nature of your spells.

Benefit: Choose one energy type: acid, cold, electricity, or fire. You may replace a spell’s normal damage with that energy type or split the spell’s damage, so that half is of that energy type and half is of its normal type.

Level Increase: +1 (an elemental spell uses up a spell slot one level higher than the spell’s actual level.)

Special: You can gain this feat multiple times. Each time you must choose a different energy type.

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Hmm... This is an interesting one. Vampiric Touch never actually gives its damage type in the description, although I would assume it should be Negative energy. Yeah, looks like RAW it should be fine.

Grand Lodge

Why would you want to though? You're taking untyped damage that a target can't possibly resist and giving it a type that they might possibly have resistance to or be immune to.


Fire vampiric touch on a white dragon ?

Grand Lodge

Highglander wrote:
Fire vampiric touch on a white dragon ?

If you're a wizard trying to cast vampiric touch on a dragon, something's already gone horribly wrong! :)


Or the Dragon is a cub.

But back on topic, I wonder if the RAI were that you can make Elemental only a spell that already deals elemental damage of some kind. Or, in other words, that you can replace an existing element with another and nothing more (although, balance-wise, I think there's nothing wrong in the other version).
Also, I wonder what would happen to the damage of an Elemental Prismatic Wall and, given its nature, if it could be made elemental at all.


To the why: quckened vampiric touch as part of my dragon disciples melee routine. If I add elemental equal to my dragon type, I give additional +1 pr die damage.


Or holding the charge...

Sczarni

Hmm using it to gain ~18% damage increase by upping the level by 1...not specifically horrible. With the right trait it could be at +0 and then it's power goes up...but without some serious cheese going in it will cap at 5d6 anyway and that isn't a great deal of damage.


10 d6 according to d20pfsrd. It used to be 5, not sure why it changed, might be a typo...

How would you reduce the level increaset to 0?


Tandriniel wrote:
How would you reduce the level increaset to 0?

Probably with the Magical Lineage magic trait.


There are traits that modifies metamagic spells, namely magical lineage and wayang spell hunter.
Vampiric touch is a great spell for tank arcane spellcasters with spell perfection. Good damage dealing and reliable self healing.

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If you're a wizard trying to cast vampiric touch on a dragon, something's already gone horribly wrong! :)

If I'm a touch spec tank sorcerer I can use the free additional x1.5 damage that convert into temporary HP.

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