Barbarian Flesh Wound vs. Bolstered Resilience


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Hello everyone. I am building a Barbarian 10/ oracle 1 build and was hoping to hear the communities view point on which would be the better ability to gain; Bolstered Resilience VS Flesh Wound rage power. I am a Invulnerable Barbarian so DR 10 (via Bolstered Resilience) would be nice but its only good for one attack per round.

I would love to hear your opinions and look forward to hearing from you all.


If this has already been covered somewhere else I would also
appricate someone linking me the thread if possible or simply pointing me in the right direction


Bolstered Resilience fatigues you after use and it uses your swift. No. This ends your rage and costs you 10xcon modifier hit points instantly. If you bolster for 10, you could take 10 still and then lose 40 or more hit points from going out of rage, and then your opponent could just kill you from there possibly.

Flesh wound converts it to nonlethal and half. You can use it when you know the DC is attainable.

So, if the damage is 35, hold off. But if it's 20, roll, take 10 nonlethal and therefore 0 damage with the doubled versus nonlethal.


Except for the fact that Flesh Wound states in its last sentence that this ability must be used before the damage is rolled, after the attack is made. So you could never know what the DC is , because the damage occurs after. For all you know you come across a storm giant and he hits you for only 24 points, your ok, but you didn't want to use the ability, but then comes a little halfling and you decide to use the ability, and out comes 45+ damage.

You're screwed in that regard. Personally, I would use bolstered because even if it eats an immediate action, essentially a swift, there aren't many things the barbarian is using his swift action for. Maybe for the energy totem rage power, but by that level it's no longer a swift for you.

If you got stalwart and improved stalwart, your DR by 16 level should be about
16 levels/2= DR 8/-base. + stalwart and improved stalwart +10 DR x 2=36. However, stalwart and improved won't add much, considering bolstered resilience is max DR 20/-. Your better off just getting bolstered resilience.

As for fatigue after use, your immune to that from the one level oracle dip you took... I hope.


Cybric stated he's a 1 oracle/10 barbarian, which means he is immune to fatigue and the only drawback of bolster resilience is eliminated. Not only that but even if the attack you activated it for might miss, you could still be hit and the power isn't wasted.

Bolster resilience is the answer, it's just more useful because it's more dependable, and when I take a feat I was it to apply its bonuses as often as possible.

Grizzlys thoughts on stacking DR are not correct. Do not get stalwart or improved stalwart in combination with your class DR, they do not stack. DR never stacks from two different sources.


Lastoth wrote:
Grizzlys thoughts on stacking DR are not correct. Do not get stalwart or improved stalwart in combination with your class DR, they do not stack. DR never stacks from two different sources.

Are you sure of this? DR USED to stack if it was of the same type. For instance DR 3/silver and dr 7/silver gave you DR 10/silver.

DR 5/Adamantite and DR 10/Magic gave you a DR 10 in most cases but if you were hit by a magic weapon you still had DR 5 Adamantite.

Unless the DR said it did not stack with other DR it stacked. (I just looked over Damage Reduction in the Bestiary adn it did not say anythign about stacking).


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I find your post amusing Lastoth. Before you say that something does not stack, you should at least take a look at the feat in question. I'll help.

Stalwart wrote:
While using the total defense action, fighting defensively action, or Combat Expertise, you can forgo the dodge bonus to AC you would normally gain to instead gain an equivalent amount of DR, to a maximum of DR 5/—, until the start of your next turn. This damage reduction stacks with DR you gain from class features, such as the barbarian's, but not with DR from any other source. If you are denied your Dexterity bonus to AC, you are also denied this DR.

I would say that it pretty clearly states that it stacks. Stalwart is a great feat for any defensively minded barbarian.


Since its already been said for me, I won't need need to say anything except this.... Look at the feats, abilities, FAQ, (whatever the someone mentions, so that you can understand what your dealing with).

It's only the rage loss. If anything it's only the temporary HP you lose. Which for level 11 should be around...3x1 levels= .. It's 3 for the Con bonus because assuming that any good barbarian would have the Raging Brutality feat. But again, since he will be immune to fatigue, there is no problem with this.


... Sorry, 3x11 levels, 33HP.


This thread has been dead a while, but I have a question about Invulnerable Rager and Bolstered Resilience. If for instance you have DR10/- from a combination of barbarian DR and stalwart, and then use Bolstered Resilience to double your DR to 20/-, would you then have DR40/lethal (since your DR against nonlethal is double of what your DR against lethal is), or would the DR against nonlethal be similarly capped to 20?
If this works, it could be extremely effective if you use Flesh Wound as well (BR is immediate and FW is not an action)

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