Question about Instant Summons spell (for clerics)

[Esper Ranger]

Instant Summons is listed as a Artifice Domain spell available to clerics at 8th level. However to use the spell you need to place your Arcane Mark on the target object. But as I understand it, clerics can't cast Arcane Mark. So how are they able to use the Instant Summons spell?

Of course I.S. wouldn't be available to clerics anyway if it wasn't a domain spell.

Any input will be appreciated.

[Fredrik]

This is just theorycrafting -- analyzing the rules and options -- not something that I've done. Tell me if it makes sense.

So, you're a 15th-level non-human cleric. You're a particularly dull one (in more than one respect), with just 10 Int and 10 Cha. What's more, you spent all of your favored class bonuses on hit points and a racial favored class option. Still, you have 30 skill ranks; you can spend one on Use Magic Device.

A 50-charge wand of arcane mark costs only 375 gp. With your pathetic UMD +1, you'll only hit a DC of 20 on a roll of 19-20; but the only downside from trying again is that if you roll a 1 before succeeding, then you'll have to wait 24 hours before your next string of tries (at a rate of ten per minute). It's only a matter of time until you manage to use the wand, at a trivial expense, for a permanent effect.

So what's the problem again?

[Howie23]

Unless there is errata, the cleric would need to be multi-classed in a class that allows arcane mark or otherwise be able to create the arcane mark..maybe via UMD?

[Sekret_One]

By RAW, yeah that's a funny catch.

I heard something about a 'two world magic trait' that lets you learn a cantrip or orison from another list.

Honestly, seems like an oversight. At a minimum, talk to your GM and see if he won't let you cast arcane mark when using this, if not just give it to you normally.

[Esper Ranger]

Sekret_One wrote:

By RAW, yeah that's a funny catch.

I heard something about a 'two world magic trait' that lets you learn a cantrip or orison from another list.

Honestly, seems like an oversight. At a minimum, talk to your GM and see if he won't let you cast arcane mark when using this, if not just give it to you normally.

I thought so too and was wondering if anyone else thought if this should be fixed by a house rule. Thanks.

While I'm thinking about it. Can Instant Summons be used to summon a container such as a box or trunk that contains other objects? Opinions?

[Cheapy]

Yo.

Jason Bulmahn wrote:

This is an issue.

I will look into resolving it... in some way. The easiest would be to swap out instant summons with greater arcane sight, or something similar.

Jason Bulmahn
Lead Designer
Paizo Publishing

[Ross Byers]

I merged the threads on this topic.

[Strife2002]

heh, yeah, this is an oldie. It can be found on the unofficial faq over at the SRD. Note the 2009 year on Cheapy's link. Scandalous.

[Esper Ranger]

Does anyone have an opinion on my last question about using Instant Summons to summon a chest of other objects? Or was it too stupid a question and I should know better?