Anyone out there got some useful suggestions on creating a Dragonslayer Presige Class for Pathfinder? And by useful I mean no "They're in the books, idiot" kind of response. I do not own all of the books.
| 2 people marked this as a favorite. |
But you have the web. Or anyway, supposedly the Core Rulebook, where the Ranger is.
Well there's a Dragonslayer PrC in Draconomicon (3.5 book) that is d10, Full BAB, 1/2 Spellcasting, Good Fort, Good Will. It also gets Aura of Courage, Damage Bonus against Dragons, Damage Reduction, Lightning Reflexes, Energy Resistance for all elemental damage types, True Strike (sp) 1/day as a move action, and Improved Critical against Dragons. It's kind of s@%* but it's a start.
But you have the web. Or anyway, supposedly the Core Rulebook, where the Ranger is.
What has a Ranger got to do with a Dragonslayer Prestige Class? I'm not looking for a Ranger who personally hates dragons. I'm looking for a specialist who makes a living out of killing dragons. And I will have to assume this site is part of "the web".
Depends what you mean by DragonSlayer:
But you have the web. Or anyway, supposedly the Core Rulebook, where the Ranger is.What has a Ranger got to do with a Dragonslayer Prestige Class? I'm not looking for a Ranger who personally hates dragons. I'm looking for a specialist who makes a living out of killing dragons. And I will have to assume this site is part of "the web".
yes, I read that post (yes this site is part of the Net (duh)).
Fairy Tail style DragonSlayer, kinda alternate between being the equivalent of a base class and a PRC. (they need to make a class based on this)
|
The problem with Dragonslayer is that it's a hyper specialist.
I second the motion of selecting a Ranger (Favored Enemy: Dragon will go a long way towards being a dragon slayer). There's even a Feat called Favored Defense which adds your Favored Enemy bonus as an AC and CMD bonus against your enemy. You can always reflavor the bonus as his specialty and expertise as opposed to "hatred", which is really what I think it's supposed to be anyways.
I would recommend taking various levels of Fighter and Ranger if you're gonna go the dragon slayer route. As for prestige classes, unfortunately Pathfinder doesn't have much in the way of dragon slayers.
My advice would be creating your own prestige class. It'd probably include Favored Enemy as a core feature (against Dragons only), maybe an ability or two that grants a bonus to defenses against Huge or larger creatures. The Oath Against the Wyrm Paladin oath would be a good source of inspiration for abilities. Heck, you could even give the PrC a spell list that fits the idea you're going for.
I'm looking for a specialist who makes a living out of killing dragons.
And what in the Ranger class does negate such a thing?
And I will have to assume this site is part of "the web".
In fact I linked this same size. Just a different section where answers take a more direct form.
I'm looking for a specialist who makes a living out of killing dragons.And what in the Ranger class does negate such a thing?
Maybe s/he meant useful/more useful against them at an earlier level and maybe defences against them that doesn't rely on magic items.
Well, what's the minimum level you can get a prestige class? 5th?
At Ranger's 5th level you already have +4 against Dragons on a wagonload of rolls (first of which are attack and damage ones). Hardly a prestige class would grant something better without being either broken or completely useless against non-Dragons. And you still get all the good of being one-class. And if you don't like choosing between only two-weapon fighting or archery, guess what? There are more combat styles to choose upon. In this same site.
As for defenses, the Ranger also has good Ref saves and Improved Evasion. Asking for more against a Dragon in the form of class features could start to sound crazy.
Plus, this is personal but just an addition, I like the fact that anybody, including someone for whom slaying dragons is everyday job, would need to rely on magic items (amulets, charms, or maybe even certain armors) to receive an amount of protection against the power of true Wyrms.
|
Although I'd like to see that PrC translated into Pathfinder, unless its done by 3rd party, it probably won't happen (since there are too few dragons on Golarion to make that viable, and the only place where they are commonplace, killing them would be like killing gods), my suggestion is to play either a Ranger who funnels all of his Favored Enemy bonuses into dragons and their servants (monstrous humanoids, humanoids [kobold], etc,) OR an Inquisitor of Apsu, who hunts and destroys evil dragons for his god, since Inquisitors are built as monster hunters already. And on top of that, check the Pathfinder SRD for the Oath Against the Wyrm Paladin (Ultimate Magic), which is a Paladin who is bound to slay evil dragons, and gets a few dragon-killing and protector-from-dragons perks. Multiclass that with ranger or Inquisitor and that's a good start (though not optimal, of course).
i would suggest this....Oath against the Wyrm
Few dragons see the smaller races of the world as their equals—to most, humanoids are either food or an annoyance. Some paladins swear to protect others against the predation of dragonkind. Some include dragon-blooded creatures (such as half-dragons or even sorcerers with the draconic bloodline) in their oath and team up with inquisitors to root out those whose ancestry carries the taint of dragon magic. Many paladins with this oath are thrill-seekers for the cause of good, channeling their divine power in ways that allow them to take on their powerful foes head on.
Breath Evasion (Su): At 4th level, a paladin with this oath gains evasion, but only against the breath weapons of creatures with the dragon type. This ability replaces channel positive energy.
Divine Bond (Sp): This works like the paladin's normal divine bond ability, except as follows. If the paladin's bond is with a weapon, she cannot use that ability to add the brilliant energy, disruption, or merciful weapon properties, but she can add the bane weapon property (but only against dragons). If the paladin's bond is with her steed, the steed gains the paladin's aura-based immunities and her aura does not affect allies. This replaces the standard divine bond ability.
Dragon-Slaying Strike (Su): At 20th level, an oathbound paladin becomes a conduit of holy power. Her DR increases to 10/evil. Whenever she uses smite evil and successfully strikes a dragon, the dragon is also subject to a single-target holy word, using her paladin level +10 as the caster level. After the banishment effect and the damage from the attack are resolved, the smite immediately ends. In addition, whenever she channels positive energy or uses lay on hands to heal a creature, she heals the maximum possible amount. This ability replaces holy champion.
Code of Conduct: Slay evil dragons, as well as other dangerous dragons whether or not they are evil. Prevent the bloodlines of other creatures from being corrupted with draconic power. Protect the innocent against the predation of dragons.
Oath Spells: 1st—enlarge person; 2nd—bear's endurance; 3rd—fly; 4th—stoneskin.
plus be a dwarf with the wyrmscourged trait from arg
Ranger, bane weapon, add more options to your character.
See 3.5 ranger feats if they are allowed in your group.