A Non-Wild Shape Druid.


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We are getting ready to start a new Kingmaker game with two new players to Pathfinder. My wife wants to play a Druid, worshiper of Demeter, and neither she nor I really like Wild Shape.

So here's my question, what would you folks do to replace Wild Shape as a class feature... and a loss of armor proficency?

One of the things I was thinking about doing was opening up certain Sorcerer Bloodlines to her, things like Dreamspun, or Starsoul, to add an air of mysticism to ther character.

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Feral Child archetype completely does away with Wild Shape. It's human only though.
I like Reincarnated Druid myself, which merely delays Wild Shape, but makes you effectively immortal at 5th level.

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blackbloodtroll wrote:

Feral Child archetype completely does away with Wild Shape. It's human only though.

I like Reincarnated Druid myself, which merely delays Wild Shape, but makes you effectively immortal at 5th level.

Feral Child? Where would I find that one?

And since I don't recognize Reincarnated Druid, where would I find that as well?

And thanks.

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Feral Child archetype is in the Advanced Race Guide.
It is also here.
Reincarnated Druid is in Ultimate Magic.
It is also here.

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blackbloodtroll wrote:

Feral Child archetype is in the Advanced Race Guide.

It is also here.
Reincarnated Druid is in Ultimate Magic.
It is also here.

Thank you kindly BBT, appreciate the links.

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No prob.


Just read the Feral Child archetype. Ow- that's just wrong. Not just the Wild Shape, but about every exchange of the core Druid ability for the new is a raw deal.


If you wanted to be rid of Wild Shape for all Druids in your setting it would be a simple enough matter. In place of Wild Shape just give them both Nature Bond options rather then making them choose between domains and an animal companion.


Oracle of Nature also gets some of the druid flavour, but no wildshape. She could also be a cleric with nature domains (I don't even think it would be particularly imbalanced if you simply let her play a cleric with the druid spell list).

For modifying the druid itself, I would probably start with giving her an extra domain, and spontaneous domain casting. Maybe also standard action summon nature's ally - depending on whether she likes that aspect. It's probably still less powerful than wild shape.

And as others have said, there are a number of druid archetypes which delay wild shape in favour of getting other stuff.

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It's the only completely non-wildshape archetype I know of.


Looking over the Druid archetypes the only one that does not seem to be completely worthless that delays wildshap is the Shaman's. At least they give bonus feats and totems.

As for being ride of wildshape completely houserule/homebrew is the only option as feral child is just bad.


Have you considered an Oracle of nature instead, it might fit Demeter/greek religion quite well, ofcourse it depends on what she wants from it.


You can just choose not to use wildshape and pick and archtype that nerfs your wildshape into oblivion

e.g. Urban druid doesn't even get wildshape until 8th level and by then why would you use it.

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You could take one of the Wildshape delaying archetypes, then around 5th/6th go into a Prestige Class.


blackbloodtroll wrote:
You could take one of the Wildshape delaying archetypes, then around 5th/6th go into a Prestige Class.

Spherewalker or divine scion seem decent choices in that case, though ofcourse the spherewalker has to be reflavored to demeter.

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Where is Demeter from?

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blackbloodtroll wrote:
Where is Demeter from?

Greek mythology.


You could go Reincarnated Druid 5 (could do 4 but the level 5 ability should not be missed :D) Warden Ranger 1 and then the nature warden prestige class.

Or as it's Kingmaker Druid World Walker 3 Cavalier Emissary or Beast Rider 2 then become a nature warden.

Either way you avoid wild shape and get an interesting (i hope) character.

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Petty Alchemy wrote:
blackbloodtroll wrote:
Where is Demeter from?
Greek mythology.

Derp. I realized it moments after I posted.

Maybe Cleric or Inquisitor with a nature theme will fit better.

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After some discussion with her this morning, she seems to be fixed on the Nature Oracle, and it goes with the feel we're looking for (Very ancient Greek with Norse sub-tones). I had not considered the Oracle before, not really liking the "flavor" of the class, but it works in this case.

Thank you all for your input. :D


Moorluck wrote:

After some discussion with her this morning, she seems to be fixed on the Nature Oracle, and it goes with the feel we're looking for (Very ancient Greek with Norse sub-tones). I had not considered the Oracle before, not really liking the "flavor" of the class, but it works in this case.

Thank you all for your input. :D

Nature Mystery has some pretty decent revelations so her character should be pretty solid.

Nature’s Whispers - use CHA instead of DEX to AC (letting you dump DEX)
Bonded Mount - Full druid Companion strength (could make a very interesting mounted character)
Friend to the Animals - your mount adds your CHA mod to saves being an animal, and adds all the summon nature's ally spells as well.
Transcendental Bond - Is a tactically awesome spell if you need to split the party


Storm Lord druid.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/archetypes/3rd-party-pub lishers/super-genius-games---druid-archetypes/storm-lord

Completely drops wild shape, gives you storm spells in return.

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