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I have for you this request. Our GM does not accept criticism. When we say that overdoing it, renew it, derives sadistic pleasure from whipping players, after a few months King Maker session turned into a grotesque. We come to play it cool and leave tired and pissed off. It's not the point. We are 5 players, trying to convince him but he thinks that is the best.
As he notices that more people are of the same opinion to force him to change his sadistic style.
I ask you friends to sign up at the post.
If you think so too.
Thank you:]
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Spoiled players? Maybe, maybe not. Might as well be a GM on a power trip, or simply incompatible expectations on both sides as to what a game should be like.
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Without further input, it will be impossible to decide who is in the wrong here.
With further input, however, the board will divide into the fraction that calls you 'sissy players' and the fraction that calls your DM a jerk.
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Frankly, if playing under this GM is not fun for you, stop doing it. Find another GM, let one of your group GM (and realize that things do look quite a bit different from the other side of the screen)... or cease playing and do something else that causes you to actually have fun.
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The reason I say spoiled players is that a person comes here to post about how horribad their GM is and wants them to sign a petition basically.
None of us know anything about the nature of the situation except what the poster writes (which could be all lies). Then they more than likely will use people agreeing with them as evidence to prove to their GM just how bad they are.
It is something that happens over and over on these boards and should never be posted up in the first place.
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The reason I say spoiled players is that a person comes here to post about how horribad their GM is and wants them to sign a petition basically.
None of us know anything about the nature of the situation except what the poster writes (which could be all lies). Then they more than likely will use people agreeing with them as evidence to prove to their GM just how bad they are.
It is something that happens over and over on these boards and should never be posted up in the first place.
Considering we often have the opposite (DM/GM complaining about their players), yeah.
We need more info. What is the nature of the criticism?
edit:Can you invite the GM here?
Starting from what is RPG? Everyone has a different look. I am a GM, I want him to players had nice sessions. They come to get away from work, home, baby:] Everybody plays the character he wants, paladin, a wizard. Ok session must be difficult but not too much, players had to enjoy, from down the evil dragon. Played with another GM? Well not really because we are a small group. And not everyone has enough time to run, so the exchange from time to time. When I kill a player I do not have this satisfaction, "super another death buahaha] :)". As for the criticism. Everyone has the right not to express their satisfaction. And what he does not like. Examples are many, but the largest, extended sessions can sometimes even an hour. Interfere with the players. Lies? And why do I lie? It does not give any names, where he lives, etc,This post is to realize that something is wrong.
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Starting from what is RPG? Everyone has a different look. I am a GM, I want him to players had nice sessions. They come to get away from work, home, baby:] Everybody plays the character he wants, paladin, a wizard. Ok session must be difficult but not too much, players had to enjoy, from down the evil dragon. Played with another GM? Well not really because we are a small group. And not everyone has enough time to run, so the exchange from time to time. When I kill a player I do not have this satisfaction, "super another death buahaha] :)". As for the criticism. Everyone has the right not to express their satisfaction. And what he does not like. Examples are many, but the largest, extended sessions can sometimes even an hour. Interfere with the players. Lies? And why do I lie? It does not give any names, where he lives, etc,This post is to realize that something is wrong.
Oh my god that hurt to read.
Anyway, the goal is to have the players walk away feeling happy, challenged, and looking forward to next time. If this is not the case, change it up. Re educate the GM or get a new one. There is always another game in town.
One of you becomes GM, do a better job. Fill the years with stories how good that campaign was.
Starting from what is RPG? Everyone has a different look. I am a GM, I want him to players had nice sessions. They come to get away from work, home, baby:] Everybody plays the character he wants, paladin, a wizard. Ok session must be difficult but not too much, players had to enjoy, from down the evil dragon. Played with another GM? Well not really because we are a small group. And not everyone has enough time to run, so the exchange from time to time. When I kill a player I do not have this satisfaction, "super another death buahaha] :)". As for the criticism. Everyone has the right not to express their satisfaction. And what he does not like. Examples are many, but the largest, extended sessions can sometimes even an hour. Interfere with the players. Lies? And why do I lie? It does not give any names, where he lives, etc,This post is to realize that something is wrong.Oh my god that hurt to read.
Please, for the love of god...
Look at your keyboard..
Find a key marked "Enter" (there will be a little arrow on it)
Please press it once in a while.
On this forum, when people complain about their GMs or players, we usually tell them: "Talk to them about it, not us! We can't help, except to encourage you to talk to them!"
If the GM really won't change his style, I'm afraid you'll have to find another GM or take over for this guy yourself.
If your play style doesn't mesh with your DM, get a new DM.
DM's develop a style over time, if they play outside that style they're not nearly as good a DM.
Sounds like spoiled players to me. Move on and find a new GM if you do not like his playstyle. Or man up and one of you GM.
"Spoiled" is a weird way to describe a group with a crappy GM. But I agree with the last comment: if you think you can do a better job, try it out!
This issue can be solved only by dealing with the GM face to face. Having other players sign an online petition on this forum will have no effect on the bad GM.
Antitheas said, "Our GM does not accept criticism." Was that criticism in the form of complaining, "Hey, GM, this game is grotesque! You're a sadist!" or was it in the form of advice, "Dropping that encounter on us when the party was wounded and depleted from the the previous encounter made it much harder than the listed challenge rating. In the future, please take that into account. Made the second encounter easier or give the party a chance to retreat and rest up?"? Criticism without advice does not help. As an experienced GM, Antitheas should be able to give advice from the GM's point of view, except that his writing style leaves me with the impression that he is poor at explaining.
As many other people said, if the GM can't work out, switch to a new GM. The party can continue the current adventure, minus the one character played by the new GM. Two years ago, the GM of our Rise of the Runelords adventure path had to quit due to health problems. I took over as GM. It was a matter of her handing me the modules and giving me an outline of the changes she had planned (made easier because I was married to her, so the modules didn't have to leave the house). Kingmaker is a published adventure path, so Antitheas don't even need his GM's cooperation to switch GMs.
I agree.
Wholeheartedly.
Signed, MacFetus.
(Did someone mention whipping?)
There's no such thing, there's just people DMing the wrong group. Someone, somewhere will think "Cool" no matter how bad you think your horror story about a DM is.
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Questions to ask yourself before being a complete douche bag:
1) Could I communicate with this person in his native language? However poorly.
2) Could I do so calmly when responding to what is already an upsetting topic, in which it has implied that I could be 'just making this s*@~ up'.
3) Could I do so in written word, which can be so much harder than just speaking.
If you answer 'No' to any of these questions, stop criticizing now. You are being a douche. Stop it.
If you can answer 'Yes', congratulations. But if your criticizing the guy in the same way as the person who said 'No' would... you're still being a douche. Stop it.
Well, I'd say it depends. Your GM *could* be a bad GM, and your table *could* just be spoiled. We need more specifics to be sure.
If your GM deliberately sets up the party for TPKs, misinterpreted wishes, and does everything in his power to ruin every attempt at playing? Yeah, that's probably a bad GM.
If your GM sends monsters at you at a slightly higher CR to challenge you, throws a few things that you might struggle with but nothing unmanageable, encourages roleplaying, and enforces the rules including punishment for your characters' actions? That's a decent GM.
If all 5 players are unhappy with the GM's style and he won't change or listen, then it's time for a new GM. That's pretty much all the advice that anyone can give with the information provided. I actually think that more information isn't going to change my answer though. If none of you are happy with the style of GMing and the GM won't change to match your style of playing, there really aren't any options other than changing who GMs. No petition is going to change that. I'm not really sure why you want us to sign some sort of petition anyway. It's not like it would be some sort of binding document. He can still GM the way he wants and you can still find a GM that suits your needs.
