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In 3E you were not allowed to "wait" to select a Feat when you level -- you must select your Feat when you level up.
In Pathfinder, I looked last night, it does not say one way or another.
So, RAW, can a Sorcerer wait, upon reaching 5th Level, to select his Feat until he reaches 6th Level?
3E went out of its way to say "No"; Pathfinder says nothing.
I have been wondering about this. I am inclined to say no, but you are right that the rule against it had been removed. I bet you could easily get away with it in a home game, but not in PFS for example.
I can think of lots of situations where it would be very useful, such as any feat with an even BAB requirement.
This comes up every week. :)
The rules say take a feat at level X. They don't say "you can take a feat".
In short you must take the feat when it becomes availible.
Nope. You must select a feat when you get the option. The rules for how to level up do not give the option to wait.
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Let me change the question -- of course, this makes it under the Suggestions/ Houserules Forum instead of the RAW Forum, but you won't mind, right?...
If you were to ask your Players to each make a 16th Level PC for a Campaign where they would never advance beyond 16th Level, one where they would start at 16th and play there even after a bazillion encounters, would you allow a PC to "wait" to select his 15th Lvl Feat until 16th Lvl?
if he'll never level to 17 to have the option to take it?
not really a big deal, lots more broken than that at the high end game
Let me change the question -- of course, this makes it under the Suggestions/ Houserules Forum instead of the RAW Forum, but you won't mind, right?...
If you were to ask your Players to each make a 16th Level PC for a Campaign where they would never advance beyond 16th Level, one where they would start at 16th and play there even after a bazillion encounters, would you allow a PC to "wait" to select his 15th Lvl Feat until 16th Lvl?
When it comes to breaking rules like that unless it is a houserule each case is very specific, and I know I would never have a house allowing someone to save feats and/or take them early as an across the board rule.
Under Advancing Your Character:
"When adding new levels of an existing class or adding levels of a new class (see Multiclassing, below), make sure to take the following steps in order. First... Finally, add new skills and feats."
Rule seems clear that you must perform these steps in order when you advance in level. Adding new feats is one of the steps, therefore, under RAW, you cannot wait.
But as a houserule, its something I've seen allowed in the past, and we didn't find it to upset any game balance.
Err...I don't get it. A third level feat is a third level feat, even if you 'delay' to take it, why should the feat's prerequisites or effects have any change?
Suppose you "took" a 3rd level feat at fifth level. You are not actually getting a second fifth level feat.
For instance, in 4e, many feats have "must be 11th/21st level" as a prerequisite. Even if you are level say, 17, you cannot retrain all your previous feats to level 11 requisite feats.
Let me change the question -- of course, this makes it under the Suggestions/ Houserules Forum instead of the RAW Forum, but you won't mind, right?...
If you were to ask your Players to each make a 16th Level PC for a Campaign where they would never advance beyond 16th Level, one where they would start at 16th and play there even after a bazillion encounters, would you allow a PC to "wait" to select his 15th Lvl Feat until 16th Lvl?
Even if the campaign started at level 16 and never progressed you still could not "wait" to use a feat gained by a level. Even though you are beginning at a higher than normal level you still make said character level by level for skill points and feat selection.
However if you are so bold as to start a campaign off at level 16 why not allow it? The game is hardly legit as it stands no point getting all caught up in minor details such as feat progression and skill levels, just throw that character together and chuck some dice.