I have a made a level 5 Cavalier and I want to make sure I have this correct. I want to do Lance-charge, overrun, and trample.
Feats for Cavalier with Gendarme archetype-
Mounted Combat
Power Attack
Ride-by Attack
Spirited Charge
Trample
Feats for Mount -
Charge Through
Improved Overun
Power Attack
(Using the mounts CMB for overun at +10)
Is this the correct combination to make this work? I'll get a lance attack and then if the overrun works a hoof attack. Also with neither myself or my mount getting any AOOs from the charged target. If the overrun doesn't work I still get the lance attack and then just stop.
Tiny bump, hoping to get this answered :).
Overrun:
As a standard action, taken during your move or as part of a charge, you can attempt to overrun your target, moving through its square.
I'll go ahead and disagree with Ossian here. While normally Charge is a full-round action. The Ride-by Attack feat allows you to make a standard attack as if you were charging and then continue your movement. Also as far as I can tell, just having Ride-by, Trample, and Improved Overrun should allow you to move, attack (as if with a charge), Overrun (with a successful CMD check), and let your mount make that one hoof attack as you ride on by. As you say, if you attempt the overrun and fail you stop directly in front of the target.
Realize, if you wanted to avoid the overrun and trample complications, you could just ride-by, get the benefit of a charge and keep on going. The lance has 10 feet of reach which gives you the ability to ride by the "side" of your opponent and attack. Then you continue the movement straight past them. This way you are still satisfying the obligations of the charge movement, but you still get to attack and keep moving. Ride-by also prevents you and your mount from provoking AoOs as part of that movement and action combo.
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I don't see how that combo allows you to make an attack with a lance AND overrun the same opponent is what I was saying. You can either charge and hit with the lance (ride-by attack) OR charge and overrun the enemy (trample).
If that combo does work I'd make sure as a GM that you are moving in a perfectly straight line for that to even be reasonable.
I don't see how that combo allows you to make an attack with a lance AND overrun the same opponent is what I was saying. You can either charge and hit with the lance (ride-by attack) OR charge and overrun the enemy (trample).
If that combo does work I'd make sure as a GM that you are moving in a perfectly straight line for that to even be reasonable.
Well my thinking is that the mount is doing the overrun (using the mounts CMD), the rider is doing ride-by with a lance.
As far as going in a straight line, how is that different then a normal charge? That's the rule for a charge.
Mounted combat is fairly confusing and there isn't a ton of information on it. I was hoping to learn more.
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Because the lance has reach you could attack from a space using a charge that isn't directly in front of the enemy. Therefore to complete the Trample that you are attempting you'd have to deviate from a straight line. But again the whole concept to me from what I am reading seems plausible but I am not sure.
My main concern comes with directing your mount to move, then you taking your attack action, and then going BACK to your mount's action again.
Again I could be wrong, but I just don't know how it works.