Erinyes with class levels... ideas?

[Midnight_Angel]

So, what do you think would be in-style, sensible (and effective) classes for, say, an Erinyes?

Inquisitor? (appears effective, and has precedence, after all...)
Hellknight? (if so, which order would come to mind?)
Cleric? (possibly going Unholy Vindicator?)

[Lathiira]

Ranger, archery style comes to mind.

[Anonymous Visitor 163 576]

Ranger and Inquisitor would work well. Flying archers are effective.

The Pathfinder conversion of A Paladin in Hell has a Erinyes ranger 8 all done for you. Check the conversions thread, she's brutal.

[hogarth]

Zen archer monk could be painful.

[Deadmanwalking]

Ranger or Fighter come immediately to mind.

Any focused spellcaster's gonna not be too powerful, jst because that's not what she does, but martial classes focusing on archery could be real nasty.

[Owen K. C. Stephens]

It depends a little what you mean by "effective." If you mean effective per class level taken, as might be the case if for some reason an erinyes is spending time with PCs (or is a PC) and is gaining levels at a set rate with them, I second inquisitor and ranger, and throw in magus for a melee erinyes and gunslinger for campaigns that allow (hellish) firearms.

If you mean "effective for her CR," suddenly oracle and wizard become great choices, though oracle is definitely the better choice. Since the erinyes has a combat role, her CR only increases by +1 for every 2 oracle levels she takes. That means a CR 12 erinyes can be an erinyes/ranger 4, or an erinyes/oracle 8. Especially if you take the battle mystery, that's pretty effective.

Of course inquisitor might also count as non-key... I don't immediately see an update of Monsters with Class Levels table to show what roles the APG, UM, and UC classes are key to.

[Midnight_Angel]

Thanks for the comments, everybody. Hmm... Magus... didn't have that one on the radar....

[FerinusCarnifexVox]

Sorry I'm late for the party. I would like to see some more people put in their input, as I want to add some classes to my Erinyes.

Midnight_Angel wrote:

So, what do you think would be in-style, sensible (and effective) classes for, say, an Erinyes?

Inquisitor? (appears effective, and has precedence, after all...)
Hellknight? (if so, which order would come to mind?)
Cleric? (possibly going Unholy Vindicator?)

Inquisitor: Best Base Class Choice. A Ranger might be better at ranged damage, but the Inquisitor is also great at ranged damage with their Judgement and Bane abilities. If there is one thing that Erinyes likes, it is judgement upon those they are about to kill.

Hellknight: Best Prestige Class Choice. The hardest thing would to have an Erinyes to kill a Lawful Evil creature in order to become a member, but once that is past the rest makes sense. The Infernal Armor will at first restrict her movement, but make it Mithrial and at the later levels it has a max dexterity of 5 (which is pretty go for +9 armor). All the class abilities is about fighting Chaotic and Unlawful acts, which is what the Erinyes is about.

Cleric/Unholy Vindicator: This is what you want if you want that crazy factor for your Erinyes. She is inflicting damage upon herself, so that you in turn will face a gruesome end. Although not every creature is willing to do this, an Erinyes would. They are expert torturers, so it would be likely that they could inflict the appropiate scars.

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Personally when I thought of an Erinyes with class levels, I went to the Sin Eater Inquisitor. They replace their domain and the ability to get a Teamwork feat at level 6 in exchange for literally eating their opponents souls for health. The opponent cannot be revived after this, and they cannot be raised as an undead or the like. This is what I think and Erinyes is about, torment before and after death. They have to take part in the combat that killed the person in order to eat their soul, but in many cases they torture their opponents to death (so its not like they weren't doing any damage to them).

Straight Ranger/Fighter would definently be the most mechanically/straightfoward method of leveling up the Erinyes.

[notabot]

Bard. Non combatant monsters with CHA should be bards.

[wraithstrike]

FerinusCarnifexVox wrote:

Sorry I'm late for the party. I would like to see some more people put in their input, as I want to add some classes to my Erinyes.

Midnight_Angel wrote:

So, what do you think would be in-style, sensible (and effective) classes for, say, an Erinyes?

Inquisitor? (appears effective, and has precedence, after all...)
Hellknight? (if so, which order would come to mind?)
Cleric? (possibly going Unholy Vindicator?)

Inquisitor: Best Base Class Choice. A Ranger might be better at ranged damage, but the Inquisitor is also great at ranged damage with their Judgement and Bane abilities. If there is one thing that Erinyes likes, it is judgement upon those they are about to kill.

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Rangers get free feats, and their favored enemy ability does not take an action to activate.

The Inquisitor does have bane, but the ranger is full BAB character.

I will have to try the Inquisitor idea out. You do make good points. If it works I will have to thank you, even if the players don't. :)

[FerinusCarnifexVox]

notabot wrote:

Bard. Non combatant monsters with CHA should be bards.

Not quite sure if they are "Non Combatant Monsters" but a bard would be a good option because of their charisma. They perfer to be in the thick of battle though, so maybe a Succubus would be a better bard.

[wraithstrike]

The Erinyes has the combat role, even though it has a high cha. If you want to use the Erinyes as a combat first opponent I would not go bard.

[Mercurial]

Midnight_Angel wrote:

So, what do you think would be in-style, sensible (and effective) classes for, say, an Erinyes?

Inquisitor? (appears effective, and has precedence, after all...)
Hellknight? (if so, which order would come to mind?)
Cleric? (possibly going Unholy Vindicator?)

Bard (Lotus Geisha) then Arcane Archer.